Radu
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2011-10-03
, 23:53
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#61
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2011-10-04
, 00:20
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@ Toronto
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]I dont get why theey dont merge Tizzot with WebOS who already is heavily based on HTML5?
and another thing about tizzon is will Tizzot support Qt in core I really doubt. why would samsung/Intel have intrests in something that Nokia has intrests in. I know nomovoc will support Qt but something is really smoking here. Even if I agree HTML is they way to go in long run but I doubt it can fully replace lower level languages like C/C++
so this means we will be iinroduced to YET another API. Question is are the community willing to learn yeat another new API? isnt Linux fragmented enought with different API doing same thing? Seriously atm I have NO trust in those big companys. And Linux foundation!? well I dont know! after the mess with maemo/meego/moblin/webos and now Tizzot.
well well lets see whats happen. Personally I will follow the Mer project and hopefully give them some kind of help too... Atleast by testing weekly images of "MerHCE" then it maybe "merge" with tizzot in the long run who knows......
but atm. I have no trust in those company projects were it more looks like all of them trying to "pissing in theyr revirs" and make it looks like they care about FOSS.
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2011-10-04
, 01:08
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@ London, UK
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WTF... we have at least 3 libraries that have ports on pretty much
Totally irrelevant example, or 'red herring' as you like to say. If you write an application in HTML5 or GTK, for example, the user should not see any difference. it is about lazy application developers who don't want to make an extra effort to assure more efficient code.
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2011-10-04
, 05:16
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Let me explain why. All these interpreted languages(including C and C++) and tools(Qt, TK, GTK, modules etc.) came to life becuse of their 'lazyness'. You could also argue using interpreted languages vs. assemby. We all know the reasons there and I belive we have simillar reasons for this change as well.
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2011-10-04
, 05:34
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It even fails as a Flash replacement. HTML5 video gracefully fails to Flash. It doesn't do queries to build navigation. Sites that have moved to HTML5 + Audio are exposing their files due to lack of security - Pandora HTML5 version exposes the *.m4a files for easy download.
Not all browsers support Canvas - blame the software engineers for that and it's not exactly fully supported in all areas quite yet. I deploy Flash, it'll work everywhere.
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2011-10-04
, 06:17
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@ Finland
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I don't think I understand this. A mobile application for Meego/Maemo or even Android running native code can do this probably thousands of time faster.
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2011-10-04
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2011-10-04
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2011-10-04
, 19:21
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@ Sweden
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Those are tools that all the C programmers that do GUI stuff already have.
It is not a requirement. Notice how I used SHOULD instead of MUST.
And it is a way to add a huge number of security issues, if you mix native code and HTML. Remember the days of ActiveX, and how many exploits were centered around it?
Obviously, with limited CPU resources, people generally strive for efficiency. This is why you won't see graphic intensive games, encoders, decoders, etc. done in anything but C/C++
This is why Mono is not that widely used on Linux.
This is why most desktop applications are written in C/C++ and not in Java or C# (although some are written in stuff like python and other scripting languages).
HTML5 is very useful for what it has been intended for: WEB. For other things, it's the wrong way of doing stuff.
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2011-10-04
, 23:26
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@ São Paulo, Brazil
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#70
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goodbye nokia, html != c/c++, meego is dead |
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