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Cue is offline Cue
2011-12-28 , 17:27
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#51
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r View Post
so explain to me why the iphone 4s is stupidly ahead in benchmarks, while the only device that is close to it is the samsung galaxy tab running honeycomb, gingerbread and anything earlier isnt optimized to run dual cores well

http://venturebeat.com/2011/10/11/ip...ndroid-phones/

no am not an apple fanboy.i dont own apple devices.
Because
a) The Iphone 4S has a dualcore processor too.
b) a simple browser benchmark score tests more than just the CPU.

That's why your link shows nothing really, an Android dualcore honeycomb tablet beating the iPhone 4S should have shown you that already. A SoC is more than just a CPU. I'm by no means saying that there have been no improvements in OS performance and I'm by no means saying that a higher clock automatically means better performance but why do you think the iPhone 4S beats the IPhone 4? Why do you think the tablet running an old Android build beat iPhones latest offering?
GPU, memory bandwidth read/write speed all contribute to a benchmark score but the CPU was not a limiting factor here.

Here is the Galaxy Nexus and RAZR (with old Android) beating the iPhone 4S in the same benchmark.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Galaxy-N...ews-13257.html
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2011-12-28 , 22:28
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#52
Originally Posted by Cue View Post
Because
a) The Iphone 4S has a dualcore processor too.
b) a simple browser benchmark score tests more than just the CPU.

That's why your link shows nothing really, an Android dualcore honeycomb tablet beating the iPhone 4S should have shown you that already. A SoC is more than just a CPU. I'm by no means saying that there have been no improvements in OS performance and I'm by no means saying that a higher clock automatically means better performance but why do you think the iPhone 4S beats the IPhone 4? Why do you think the tablet running an old Android build beat iPhones latest offering?
GPU, memory bandwidth read/write speed all contribute to a benchmark score but the CPU was not a limiting factor here.

Here is the Galaxy Nexus and RAZR (with old Android) beating the iPhone 4S in the same benchmark.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Galaxy-N...ews-13257.html
alright i can put my hand up when am wrong, so why does the iphone chipset in the test below beat everything to a pulp?
 
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2011-12-29 , 00:07
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#53
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r View Post
alright i can put my hand up when am wrong, so why does the iphone chipset in the test below beat everything to a pulp?
4S has the better GPU. Androids have the better CPU and more RAM. Is it that hard to figure out?
 
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2011-12-29 , 00:46
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#54
same tests with the dual cores

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2

why is honeycomb and the 4s ahead of everyone by miles in the first test? optimized OS while previous older revisions arent doing as well, wait for ice cream sandwich to be released to the samsung galaxy 2 and I bet it will catch up to those top two
 
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2011-12-29 , 02:12
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r View Post
same tests with the dual cores

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2

why is honeycomb and the 4s ahead of everyone by miles in the first test? optimized OS while previous older revisions arent doing as well, wait for ice cream sandwich to be released to the samsung galaxy 2 and I bet it will catch up to those top two
That's the the same test as the first link you posted (just the source of it) and the one I was referring to. You may see an improvement but I doubt it will be that dramatic.
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litemotiv is offline litemotiv
2011-12-29 , 10:08
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#56
To make a long story short: Apple's A5 is "just another" ARM implementation with a fast GPU. So the more the OS is optimized to offload tasks to the GPU, the better it will perform in benchmarks.
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2011-12-29 , 11:31
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#57
Benchmarks rarely tell the true story for an individual's usage patterns.
As they can vary immensely from person to person...
You want to see how well a device does performing numerous tasks that you do regularly.
That's what matters most....
 
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2011-12-29 , 12:21
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#58
Can we please get rid of this idea that an iPhone is optimized and other phones are not. This may be the case but I assure you that is not what the benchmarks are showing.
If I need to make myself any more clear why the iPhone beats the old Androids in that benchmark: its that an iPhone 4S has a Series5XT MP2 GPU and those other phones just have a Series 5. Its a dualcore GPU vs a single core older GPU. This is also the reason the Galaxy tab beat the iPhone 4S, because it has a ULP Geforce GPU and a faster CPU.

As jalyst said, benchmarks do not really show you much about OS optimisation.
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2011-12-29 , 17:43
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#59
i think it will be a dramatic improvement in benchmarks but not in real life tasks.
 
danested is offline danested
2011-12-31 , 01:53
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#60
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
LOL disagree on what?? There is nothing to disagree on.
Nokia never transitioned to real MeeGo, they hardly did any work towards it.
Real MeeGo is now supplanted by MeR/Nemo etc.
MeeGo site infrastructure will gradually transition to Tizen.
Unless Nokia convinces the Linux Foundation to give the branding/name to them, & they continue Maemo/Meltemi development there.
But that makes little common sense, & even if it did, it's unlikely the LF would agree.
Well, what you're talking about is growth. In that sense, yes, Meego seems to be lacking... or even non existent maybe...

But if you're saying Meego's dead just based on the support it will receive then we're definitely not looking at it the same way/perspective.

Meego is still alive and kicking, it works. It does what it's supposed to do, and it does it well. It looks awesome ! (I would have preferred it if it dint have a windows clone) Most importantly for me, it wont provide information to sneaky companies...
 
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