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2007-12-21
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The problem is that what you want to do, is re-flash. Unlike traditional HDD there isn't the concept of format. The image you are flashing (contained in the bin file you downloaded), is in effect, the hdd. (it's actually mountable as an mtd device)
When you re-flash, what was there is gone. Flash memory doesn't have the magnetic states of a mechanical HDD (like in your laptop) and so can't remember prior info. It's like a light switch, on or off and once it goes from one to the other it doesn't know what happened before.
To return to factory, just re-flash and when it offers to restore from backup say no. Then none of your prior info is retained and expect for data you put on your memory card. it's back to the beginning for you.
As for the Memory card. I've been round and round with some of them. My Kingston however has been solid.
Last edited by linuxrebel; 2007-12-21 at 09:02.
When you re-flash, what was there is gone. Flash memory doesn't have the magnetic states of a mechanical HDD (like in your laptop) and so can't remember prior info. It's like a light switch, on or off and once it goes from one to the other it doesn't know what happened before.
To return to factory, just re-flash and when it offers to restore from backup say no. Then none of your prior info is retained and expect for data you put on your memory card. it's back to the beginning for you.
As for the Memory card. I've been round and round with some of them. My Kingston however has been solid.
Last edited by linuxrebel; 2007-12-21 at 09:02.
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2007-12-21
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My Kingston has been great, once set to read-only by the move to .19 but resolved after searching here.
But the fact that a reflash doesn't exactly seem to clear out the full data - I mean, where does the bit of data that I've changed the unlock code reside? Or the fact that the very same websites still are slow to load after a reflash. Or that my virtual memory is still set after a reflash?
I'm under the impression that a reflash is indeed a "wipe"... but then running apt-get clean, there are files that are removed from immediately after a reflash if I've installed something prior.
Maybe it's a fluke. I don't mind stating that I could be wrong on all accounts here.
But the fact that a reflash doesn't exactly seem to clear out the full data - I mean, where does the bit of data that I've changed the unlock code reside? Or the fact that the very same websites still are slow to load after a reflash. Or that my virtual memory is still set after a reflash?
I'm under the impression that a reflash is indeed a "wipe"... but then running apt-get clean, there are files that are removed from immediately after a reflash if I've installed something prior.
Maybe it's a fluke. I don't mind stating that I could be wrong on all accounts here.
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2007-12-21
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I think that the closest you can get to a reformat is to reflash and not restore a backup.
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2007-12-21
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Lock codes are stored outside of the normal flash space. They are not intended to be overwritten by the user using the flashing process (otherwise somebody can just take your tablet and flash over the lock code to use it 
), and aren't something you need to worry about as far as overall stability is concerned, anyway.
), and aren't something you need to worry about as far as overall stability is concerned, anyway.
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2007-12-21
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Probably in the protected area where the flashing code is.
But the fact that a reflash doesn't exactly seem to clear out the full data - I mean, where does the bit of data that I've changed the unlock code reside?
Originally Posted by gerbick
The virtual memory seems to get set whenever a swap file is found. And the same web sites will be just as slow even if you visit them with some entirely other device with similar CPU and memory constraints, using the same browser engine - Gecko is not really friendly towards small devices. Opera was faster, but even fewer people loved it as it failed to render the many broken sites out there (most popular sites contain more broken than sane HTML - I recently counted 1800 errors on one single Myspace page).
Or the fact that the very same websites still are slow to load after a reflash. Or that my virtual memory is still set after a reflash?
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2007-12-21
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I just find it odd that it takes me over one minute to get to Gizmodo.com (for instance), but everybody else is declaring under 10sec. And it wasn't always like that...
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2007-12-31
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Greetings,
I have the urge to completely obliterate everything in the filesystem as well. I got a 2nd hand N800 recently. When running the ssh terminal and then running 'ps', there seems to be multiple instances of the same program running.
Here's what it looks like.
As you can see the following programs have 2 duplicate instances running.
/usr/sbin/hulda
/usr/bin/hildon-input-method
/usr/bin/hildon-application-manager
/usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-mmc
usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
[dsp/0]
and 4 instances of /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
Running the terminal in the N800 will also pop up with 2 instances of /usr/bin/osso-xterm with pid 1585 and 1586, even if I have only 1 terminal opened. Same goes with /usr/bin/mediaplayer-ui
But not with /usr/bin/browser though, only 1 instance.
I've reflashed numerous times, with and without SD, powerplug, downgraded to OS2007, then reflashed into some development jffs file.
I'm sure theres many who feels that simply flashing is nowhere close to wiping out the whole filesystem clean and installing a fresh new OS over it.
So im wondering, would it be wise if i simply go:
rm -R /
in the terminal.
Will I still be able to boot the device, and do the same old flash process as described here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howt...magewithlinux/ ? Or will i completely brick my N800?
**EDIT** According to http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...297#post118297 the multiple instances are normal.
Last edited by robin; 2007-12-31 at 12:03.
I have the urge to completely obliterate everything in the filesystem as well. I got a 2nd hand N800 recently. When running the ssh terminal and then running 'ps', there seems to be multiple instances of the same program running.
Here's what it looks like.
Code:
1 root 1468 SW init [2]
2 root SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
3 root SW [watchdog/0]
4 root SW< [events/0]
5 root SW< [khelper]
6 root SW< [kthread]
14 root SW< [dvfs/0]
65 root SW< [kblockd/0]
66 root SW< [kseriod]
78 root SW< [OMAP McSPI/0]
85 root SW< [ksuspend_usbd]
88 root SW< [khubd]
112 root SW [pdflush]
113 root SW [pdflush]
114 root SW< [kswapd0]
115 root SW< [aio/0]
118 root SW< [mipid_esd]
237 root SW [mtdblockd]
279 root SW< [kondemand/0]
280 root SW< [kmmcd]
291 root SW< [krfcommd]
327 root 1108 SW< dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libstartup.so
335 root 776 SW /usr/bin/bme_RX-34
337 root 564 SW /usr/sbin/kicker
386 root SW< [cx3110x]
406 root SWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd4]
438 root 1576 SW< /sbin/udevd --daemon
640 messagebus 2312 SW< /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
670 haldaemon 4116 SW /usr/sbin/hald
671 root 2800 SW hald-runner
730 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
731 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
732 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
733 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
734 root 2940 SW hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event2 /dev
735 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-mmc
736 root 2436 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-mmc
738 root 2952 SW /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
751 root 3636 SW< /sbin/mce --force-syslog
767 root 11656 SW< /usr/bin/Xomap -mouse tslib -nozap -dpi 96 -wr -nolis
794 user 1312 SW< /usr/sbin/temp-reaper
797 user 2048 SW< /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session
801 user 7096 SW< /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server
805 user 6520 SW< /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager -theme default -use_
813 root SW< [dsp/0]
816 root SW< [dsp/0]
819 root 2952 SW /usr/sbin/dsp_dld -p --disable-restart -c /lib/dsp/ds
825 root 2792 SW< /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy -N
884 root 4804 SW /usr/sbin/multimediad
890 root 2176 SW< /usr/bin/esd
918 systemui 16936 SW< /usr/bin/systemui
944 root SW< [file-storage-ga]
947 haldaemon 2508 SW hald-addon-usb-cable: listening on /sys/devices/plat
955 root 7836 SW< /usr/sbin/ke-recv
974 user 18960 SW< /usr/bin/maemo-launcher --daemon --send-app-died --bo
983 nobody 1812 SW< /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z
986 root 2924 SW< /usr/bin/btcond -l
989 root 2520 SW< /usr/sbin/hcid -n -x -s
992 root 2452 SW< /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd-service-audio
993 root 2412 SW< /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd-service-input
999 root 3580 SW< /usr/sbin/wlancond
1002 root 3204 SW< /usr/sbin/icd
1035 user 1448 SW< /usr/bin/hildon-input-method
1036 user 27472 SW< /usr/bin/hildon-input-method
1039 user 3916 SW< /usr/bin/clipboard-manager
1041 messagebus 3324 SW /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2
1120 user 1448 SW< /usr/bin/hildon-desktop
1121 user 39736 SW< /usr/bin/hildon-desktop
1160 user 1448 SW< /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
1161 user 27884 SW< /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
1167 user 7416 SW< /usr/bin/osso-media-server
1191 user 3192 SW< /usr/bin/obexsrv -l
1211 user 5232 SW /usr/bin/alarmd
1244 root 5084 SW< /usr/sbin/hulda
1245 root 3036 SW< /usr/sbin/hulda
1265 user 16100 SW /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine
1271 user 16084 SWN /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler -F
1287 user 7944 SW /usr/libexec/gnome-vfs-daemon
1321 messagebus 14392 SW /usr/bin/eapd
1324 root 1472 SW< /sbin/udhcpc -i wlan0 -s /etc/udhcpc/udhcpc.script -f
1347 user 1448 SW /usr/bin/hildon-application-manager --no-show
1348 user 28132 SW /usr/bin/hildon-application-manager
1349 root 5416 SWN /usr/libexec/apt-worker /tmp/apt-worker.to /tmp/apt-w
1538 root 3168 SWN /usr/sbin/sshd
1567 root 5776 RWN sshd: root@pts/0
1569 root 1960 SWN -sh
1583 root 1960 RWN ps
/usr/sbin/hulda
/usr/bin/hildon-input-method
/usr/bin/hildon-application-manager
/usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-mmc
usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
[dsp/0]
and 4 instances of /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-omap-gpio
Running the terminal in the N800 will also pop up with 2 instances of /usr/bin/osso-xterm with pid 1585 and 1586, even if I have only 1 terminal opened. Same goes with /usr/bin/mediaplayer-ui
But not with /usr/bin/browser though, only 1 instance.
I've reflashed numerous times, with and without SD, powerplug, downgraded to OS2007, then reflashed into some development jffs file.
I'm sure theres many who feels that simply flashing is nowhere close to wiping out the whole filesystem clean and installing a fresh new OS over it.
So im wondering, would it be wise if i simply go:
rm -R /
in the terminal.
Will I still be able to boot the device, and do the same old flash process as described here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howt...magewithlinux/ ? Or will i completely brick my N800?
**EDIT** According to http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...297#post118297 the multiple instances are normal.
Last edited by robin; 2007-12-31 at 12:03.
Same for my one bug that I'm having with one particular site - actually, I'm seeing problems with a few sites, but the slight delay(s) really are more annoyance than anything else. Well that and now Maps won't even load since I cleared the device.
So I'm seriously looking for a way to return this machine to nothing, no tmp, no cache, nothing, wipe it clean and restart with a totally fresh install that remembers nothing from my prior flash. I'm not convinced that resetting the machine to true factory settings. Especially when I'm still seeing the aforementioned problems that aren't exactly Maemo application catalog/Garage lack of throughput as of late.
Any help will be appreciated. And to clear the air, I've re-flashed to the latest OS, I've cleared the device, unmounted the mmc2 device then formatted, removed and placed back the virtual memory - which failed like 8 times before it finally worked - and I'm not 100% sure this machine is acting like it did the day I received it.
ugh.