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2012-05-20 , 21:11
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#411
Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
I looked at your rules, and they look fine. So I'll write here what I've understood to be your problem, and please correct me if I am mistaken in here:

- The problem is the rule "Availability on". It should put accounts online, but doesn't.
- Rules that put accounts offline work (?)

Have you checked that in ProfileMatic there is the blue bar to indicate "Availability on" is active when you thought it should have changed accounts online?
Thanks for your answer..
Honestly, I have 3 rules with Availability..
1. Tomy slipping = Silent + Availability change OFF (without restoring) when 21:00-06:40 All days
2. Availability on = Availability change ON (without restoring) when on location (don't remember why i did this rule, the location ID like in the rule #3)
3. BT on = BlueTooth ON + Availability change ON (without restoring) when on location and 06:45-23:58 All days (the time because of BT)
And yes (about your question), I checked and I saw the blue lines when the rules is active, but Availability is still OFF...

Now I checked again all my rules and I think I found some mistakes... I don't know why, maybe I or maybe after updates something happens.. I edited this rules and I will check tomorrow if this work...
Thanks again...
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2012-05-21 , 09:00
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#412
I found one bug of profilematic.
Version: v1.6.1
Phone: N9.
I set two rules, one is set to Silent when 08:30-08:31 Monday to Friday, another one is set to Ringing when 17:00-17:01 Monday to Friday.
These two rules work well from Monday to Friday. But after weekend, it will not work on next Monday.
I need to deactive the rules and atctive them again. then it works well.
The bug is there for long time, and I couldn't find any change in every version.
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2012-05-21 , 11:31
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#413
OK I think I found where is the problem...
I installed 1.6.1 again and I saw the background connection is set to OFF in the "BT on" rule.
I changed this to ON and Availability start to work immediately.. I changed background again to "Don't change" and rebooted my phone, When phone completely loaded, the Availability switched to ON automatically.. For now all right..
I installed again version 1.6.2 and Availability still working..
I don't know why, but ProfileMatic somehow remember my changes of Background to ON, and now it's always activate this but in version 1.6.2 i can't change this anymore...
Without background ON the Availability not work even if I see the blue line near the rule...
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2012-05-21 , 12:14
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#414
Originally Posted by angelwings View Post
I found one bug of profilematic.
Version: v1.6.1
Phone: N9.
I set two rules, one is set to Silent when 08:30-08:31 Monday to Friday, another one is set to Ringing when 17:00-17:01 Monday to Friday.
These two rules work well from Monday to Friday. But after weekend, it will not work on next Monday.
I need to deactive the rules and atctive them again. then it works well.
The bug is there for long time, and I couldn't find any change in every version.
Thanks.
Thanks for the report. I'll try to reproduce this during the weekend.
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2012-05-21 , 12:17
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#415
Originally Posted by Schturman View Post
OK I think I found where is the problem...
I installed 1.6.1 again and I saw the background connection is set to OFF in the "BT on" rule.
I changed this to ON and Availability start to work immediately.. I changed background again to "Don't change" and rebooted my phone, When phone completely loaded, the Availability switched to ON automatically.. For now all right..
I installed again version 1.6.2 and Availability still working..
I don't know why, but ProfileMatic somehow remember my changes of Background to ON, and now it's always activate this but in version 1.6.2 i can't change this anymore...
Without background ON the Availability not work even if I see the blue line near the rule...
This is peculiar. It's true ProfileMatic remembers the setting (as I hoped I may find solution for it), but I had disabled the code that actually does any changes - or so I thought. I'll have to check this when I get home.

Even more peculiar is that for you ProfileMatic's changing of "Background connection" to OFF actually worked.
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2012-05-21 , 14:07
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#416
Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
I would like to include at least a FAQ and maybe some example configurations to ProfileMatic's homepage. But it's always being delayed as when I have time I rather do some programming :P.
Awesome, that'd encourage more to fully/actively use profilematic, instead of giving-up after a while!
Hence they'd be more likely to donate etc...
Some excellent use cases to point out, are ones that workaround/mitigate any nasty bugs remaining.

No, it's actually for quite different use case. ProfileMatic is for recurring planned occurences. RingingRestorer is meant more for unexpected situations that can't be scheduled. For example, I can't schedule my toilet visits, so RingingRestorer can help there. I can put phone silent during my "private time" in toilet, and be assured that the phone restores ringing mode after a while.
Ah of course, hmm, maybe I'll give it a go...

I put RingingRestorer as paid app because I wanted to experiment if it's worthwhile to have paid apps there. Another reason was that I didn't create the application for my own needs (although now that the application has been created, I find it quite useful and am using it), but because another user requested it. I would have liked to get a bit compensation for the time used.
I don't intend to charge for ProfileMatic, except by begging for donations. Thanks to all who've donated! It's not a big sum I've gotten that way, but it is nevertheless motivating that there are users who find the application worth while of donations.
I still think it's worthwhile charging for it at the Nokia Store, more-so than RingingRestorer.
But if you're happy with just the occasional donation, then that's your choice of course!
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2012-05-21 , 14:56
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#417
Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
Typically in any given place, the cell id changes between a couple of values.
You mean even with the same cell tower you can still have different cell ID's?
Or do you mean that sometimes I'll end-up on a different cell tower (diff. ID), even if I'm in exactly the same location?

I don't exactly know how to do these, maybe some fancy shell scripting could do that with ProfileMatic's "Custom action".
Harmattan has automatic WiFi scanning in the background. I'm a bit uncertain what you're trying to do as it seems to me Harmattan has built-in the functionality: auto-connect to specified WiFis, disconnect once out of range.
You're right, but I find it doesn't work all that well in practice...
It comes up w/a prompt to connect, it doesn't just auto-connect in the background.
I have background connections enabled and automatic etc...
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2012-05-21 , 18:14
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#418
Flight Mode still gives me the "Cridentials" error message when creating this rule..... All I need is for the Internet to Cut Off completely after 21:00 to 05:00. What do I do....??
 
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2012-05-21 , 18:19
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#419
He said if you want your 3g connection to the net killed, use flight mode.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=341
I think he mentioned earlier in the thread that it's still quite dodgy
*edit*
See posts #355 #373, several posts in between, & a few after #373...

It works through an exploit/flaw which may or may not be plugged later.
The flaw is exploited by reinstalling profilematic each time you get the credential problem.
If the flaw's eventually plugged open-mode or inception will have to be used.
Power saving mode seems to work all the time without needing to exploit a flaw.
Despite being doco'd in the API as requiring credentials.....

It may be possible to use inception to keep aegis away from what profilematic's doing.
I can't recall if inception rules remain on reboot though, haven't followed it all for ages.
Just read the inception & sh thread/s carefully, some may offer further advice there.
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2012-05-22 , 05:48
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#420
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Awesome, that'd encourage more to fully/actively use profilematic, instead of giving-up after a while!
Hence they'd be more likely to donate etc...
Some excellent use cases to point out, are ones that workaround/mitigate any nasty bugs remaining.
Any suggestions about what the bugs are and what would be the work-around?

You mean even with the same cell tower you can still have different cell ID's?
Or do you mean that sometimes I'll end-up on a different cell tower (diff. ID), even if I'm in exactly the same location?
I think the case is the latter. In any one place there's most likely several cell towers near-by which the phone might connect to. So the one the device uses can change every now and then even if staying on the exact same spot. This is why, when using the location condition, it is important to let ProfileMatic collect the cell id's for sometime.

You're right, but I find it doesn't work all that well in practice...
It comes up w/a prompt to connect, it doesn't just auto-connect in the background.
I have background connections enabled and automatic etc...
I have only very rarely noticed that, mostly it works just fine for me. I don't know if it's even possible to do what you suggested, but I'll try to keep this in mind when I'm diving into the API docs. But hopefully PR1.3 fixes these issues.

I still think it's worthwhile charging for it at the Nokia Store, more-so than RingingRestorer.
Yes of course ProfileMatic is more worthy to charge than RingingRestorer, but I consider ProfileMatic my contribution to the community. This is the best device I've had for a long while so I'm happy to do my part . Maybe if I get around some day to put ProfileMatic as free to AppsForMeego, I could consider charging in Nokia Store.
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