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2008-01-07 , 23:58
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#71
Originally Posted by Aciv View Post
Forgive me, I want to be helpful, but you're an idiot. I upgraded to OS2008 right away and don't have the problems you are having. Slashdot looks fine without any greasemonkey script. The articles are in one column and it's left justified (no portrait mode needed). Stop spreading disinformation and stop complaining and learn how to use your NIT, or do us all a favor and get rid of it or just stop talking like you know something about it.
So softpoweroff now works in ITOS2008, yes?
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#72
Originally Posted by Aciv View Post
Forgive me, I want to be helpful, but you're an idiot. I upgraded to OS2008 right away and don't have the problems you are having. Slashdot looks fine without any greasemonkey script. The articles are in one column and it's left justified (no portrait mode needed). Stop spreading disinformation and stop complaining and learn how to use your NIT, or do us all a favor and get rid of it or just stop talking like you know something about it.
Aciv, flames aren't allowed in this forum.

And TA-t3 is no idiot. I don't always agree with him, and don't always share his experiences, but the guy is sharp. You're new here, so you can almost be forgiven for not knowing him through more posts, as I do. Almost. It's just that it's not a good practice to start off alienating us old-timers. Read and learn.
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Originally Posted by zeusenergy View Post
Hey, Frank. I just returned mine for cash. I'll be cruising for an iPaq 111 tonight, so should have in within a week. That's fine with me :0)
Sorry to hear about your issues. I'm hoping threads like this will wake Nokia up to the potential of selling many more of these devices, but the software and hardware needs to be prime-time first! That HTC is pretty nice. I'd take a look at the Raon Everun, it's also very good value for money and has a great battery life.
So... you're just sticking around to bless us with your charm and wit?

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Originally Posted by linux_author View Post
- which points out that many of the folks posting here:

1. are simply consumers and don't know about computers

2. if familiar with computers, don't know anything about Linux

3. aren't familiar with the limitations of a pda/tablet and aren't aware of the 'net resources available... to whit:

http://slashdot.org/palm

or

Small Sites

- a simple google search will bring up many such resources...

- and for those who aren't thrilled with their Nokia Linux-based handhelds, well, that's OK too... i wasn't thrilled with my Palm PDA, my Agenda PDA, my 3COM Audrey...

- but i *love* my n800 (and ordered a second for a backup)...

- don't like the Nokia? get a Windows-based handheld and you might be happier (but i'd be willing you won't have as much fun)...

:-)
My thoughts exactly... I never did expect a good user experience browsing sites designed for a screen 10 to 12 times the size of the Tablets.
Especially @ the typical speeds of a cell phone connection. When I'm near WiFi, I'm usually near a desktop computer. Besides, no matter what the resolution is of a small screen, it still is like looking at the world through a dang soda straw.


What I did expect and do enjoy is browsing the "small sites" that I used to view through a cell phones 2" screen. Or, having the tablet near by me at home so I can nab some reference info off the net without having to stop what I'm doing (vegging in front of the tube, prepping food in the kitchen, sitting on the porch enjoying the evening, or working on something in the garage) and walk to the desktop.

The same goes for traveling. I don't need or want to lug a laptop, extra battery, charging and connection cables with me on a trip.
One tablet, one charger is all I need.

However, like you, in order for this to work for me I had to do some work first by spending a day or two collecting bookmarks to small and useful sites.

http://home.comcast.net/~fynspy/YoDude_PDA.htm
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Originally Posted by vvaz View Post
For me looks like someone in Nokia skipped extensive tests etap giving away "beta edition".
Tut tut! I did separate hardware and software in my description.

And your frustration is well-received... at least by some of us who've been intimately involved with the tablets' development and production. As I've stated ad nauseum, I wish I could say more but I have this thing for continual paychecks.

Suffice to say that contrary to the more belligerent claims made here, lessons ARE being learned, and slowly incorporated. Unfortunately, the project can't be turned on a dime.

And this isn't directed at anyone in particular, but I'm gonna repeat something some may find insulting but truly is not meant that way: if you find out quickly that any tablet you buy is not fulfilling your expectations, and you don't share the thrillseeking gene that leads many of us to explore solutions on our own, then by all means return it for a refund and spare yourselves further aggravation. Life is too short to irritate yourself over an electronic device. Get your money back, and go spend it on something more immediately gratifying.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
So... you're just sticking around to bless us with your charm and wit?

Actually he's supposedly here to teach Nokia (and us all) a groundbreaking lesson:

"Make the software/hardware better and you'll sell more products and have less customer conflict."

Once Nokia sees this, they will stop creating all this trouble for themselves, and we'll have this thread to thank for it. An incrediably noble cause when you think about it!

Now if we only had a button to reward people for having an intuitive grasp of the obvious...
 
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Crap. I think I need to update my resume...
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
So... you're just sticking around to bless us with your charm and wit?

Nah, I'll be gone soon enough. Unless you enjoy my prose?

Anyone?

Bueller?
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Hey, don't let me chase you off. That's Karel's job.
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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
Actually he's supposedly here to teach Nokia (and us all) a groundbreaking lesson:

"Make the software/hardware better and you'll sell more products and have less customer conflict."

Once Nokia sees this, they will stop creating all this trouble for themselves, and we'll have this thread to thank for it. An incrediably noble cause when you think about it!

Now if we only had a button to reward people for having an intuitive grasp of the obvious...
Good show, Moonshine. At least I don't push away people who don't know much about the subject. My N800 experience turned into a beta test. That's only because the product just doesn't provide me with the kind of reliability I need in the current state of IT2kx. So what if I posted my own experience. That's what this forum is for- to improve upon the device, it's software, and the general user experience. It also helps people to decide what to buy. How do you think I decided on getting an N800? Reading in forums like this beforehand, for about two weeks. I did get a physically defective example. But the rest of the mess I've spoke about is what made me reconsider and go back to a more familiar device. I'll bash myself in the head after using the tiny screen. The skin on my lips will be chewed to ground beef consistency, working with a blasted poor start menu and the stylus will be maddening. Pecking away woody-woodpecker style, how fun. But the device will work every time with better battery life and much smaller form factor. I know dozens of professional techs and still I am the one who buys gadgets most or first. My opinion is valuable to them and less inclined people alike. But the real fact is that those people wouldn't settle for the N800 either. The people who have seen the device surely love it's style and GUI, and that includes me. I'm not a N800 hater, regardless of what you think.

So your reasoning leads me to believe that the device is supposed to be marketed to hardcore Linux users? You'd have me and many other people asking ourselves that question.
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