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	Texrat	2012-08-06 , 02:04
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Play nice kids.

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	ranbaxy	2012-08-06 , 07:17
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman

Another Stalinist trying to banish free opinion. Lets do ethnic cleansing next.

Why do you get banned every alternate day?

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switch-hitter	2012-08-06 , 07:30
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman

If you want easy to use, smoothest OS, that is idiot proof, WP is great. And that is what most individuals want.

You keep claiming to know what 'most' people want, yet NOKIA's sales continue to tell a completely different story. Even after the absolute devastation Elop has wreacked on NOKIA's own operating systems they still outsell NOKIA's WP7 handsets.

In Q4 2010 NOKIA sold 28.3 million smart phones and their sales were increasing, now they're down to 10 million and only 4 million of those are WP7 handsets (personally I'd question whether those should actually be regarded as smart phones seeing as some Series 40 phones offer greater functionality, but that's another story). NOKIA better hope 'most' people get the gig pretty soon.

Originally Posted by gerbick

At 2.37, I'm truly surprised how they've hit the bottom, bounced back a little bit.

Now, how long will this last?

I had read a quote from an analyst predicting a little bounce because the share price had got so low NOKIA's patent portfolio alone was worth more.

	volt	2012-08-06 , 09:45
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Well, Nokia has in a joint antic with Microsoft shifted at least 2000 of Nokias patents to the patent troll MOSAID. I don't know if this is their most or least valuable 1/15 of their patent portfolio, but I don't think the patent portfolio of 2013 will be directly comparable with the patent portfolio of 2011. Nokia's CFO also stated that they're ready to sell parts of their portfolio if the price is right. Which basically means they're looking to get rid of them.

It looks to me like Nokia is planning on leaving innovation to their partners, which is compatible with everything they've said, really.

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	Dave999	2012-08-06 , 12:54
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Anyone have any great stock value application for N9. STocks world wide is a must. anyone working on one?

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Rauha	2012-08-06 , 15:55
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Originally Posted by volt

It looks to me like Nokia is planning on leaving innovation to their partners, which is compatible with everything they've said, really.

Compatible with everything they have done during the past 18 months as well. Only part left to innovate is the camera development and squeezing few more megapixels in. Maybe the location & mapping stuff also. The again, Microsoft OEMs don't really need to innovate anyway. Thats up to Microsoft. OEMs need to come up with marketing and/or pricing that gives reason to buy hardware from manufacturer X rather than Y. And well, Windows Phone manufacturers also have the extra effort of praying for the miracle of consumers someday wanting to buy WP phones from anyone to begin with. Producing that miracle is up to MIcrosoft as well.

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	danramos	2012-08-06 , 17:03
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Originally Posted by specc

Danramos, I really don't care what you think. For me, if the Nokia WP8 is cool, I will get it (one of them), if not I'll pass. First, a Nexus 7 is on the list though.

Daperl: What exactly IS your problem? What have I ever done to you?

I'm not pointing out what I think nor are we talking about your purchases--just commenting on your previous statements. I'd like to know what you think is a reasonable threshold before you can be clearly dismissed as wrong. You and Lumiaman are both known for moving the goal-post every time a significant measure of time has gone by without success. So please, tell us what you think would be a reasonable time for the Windows Phone strategy to finally win for Nokia--mind you, I'm pretty sure it has to succeed before the company goes under.

Also... if I may guess Daperl's problem: You've been heavily antagonizing. Personally, I'm not sure banning is necessarily the right answer but you certainly aren't gaining any favor among this crowd by doing so.

Originally Posted by Rauha

Compatible with everything they have done during the past 18 months as well. Only part left to innovate is the camera development and squeezing few more megapixels in. Maybe the location & mapping stuff also. The again, Microsoft OEMs don't really need to innovate anyway. Thats up to Microsoft. OEMs need to come up with marketing and/or pricing that gives reason to buy hardware from manufacturer X rather than Y. And well, Windows Phone manufacturers also have the extra effort of praying for the miracle of consumers someday wanting to buy WP phones from anyone to begin with. Producing that miracle is up to MIcrosoft as well.

Except for Nokia, don't all the other Windows Phone OEM's have other alternative operating systems that are all selling far better? I'm pretty sure they're not praying for anything related to Windows Phone--I'm sure the very teeny, tiny TEAMS within those OEM's that are working exclusively on Windows Phone probably are, though.

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Rauha	2012-08-06 , 17:44
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Nokia's last remaining European blue collar workers in Salo, Finland have started lighting candles in memoriam of Nokia.

mikecomputing	2012-08-06 , 17:57
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Originally Posted by Rauha

Nokia's last remaining European blue collar workers in Salo, Finland have started lighting candles in memoriam of Nokia.

Serioulsy :O Finland has given up for Nokia for long. But people are fighters. I am sure there will come up some new cool companys from there. And I am also sure alot of finland will buy theyr new stuff. Hopefully rest of northeuropeans doing the same instead of feed MicroNokia with the money because MicroNokia deserves to die.

However its a shame American buying out all those Finish patents when EU just sitting there doing NOTHING

I guess thats why stockholders doing NOTHING too AFAIK because most big stockholders are Americans too...

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jsaloo	2012-08-06 , 18:10
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Originally Posted by Cue

Recently I've noticed a lot of new users with no posts other than the 1 or two they post here. Welcome stealthology and jsaloo. Long time lurkers I guess? hope it's not something more sinister

That widget(is it?) looks nice, though a little uninformative on what the bars actually mean. Is chaikin power tools data sourced from somewhere else or do they provide their own with additional information they publish somewhere?

I haven't gotten my invite to the Super Sinister League of Super Evil yet, but I'm working on it

Yeah, there's a widget but I don't really use it much. Their iPhone one is the only version that gets in depth - you can open the sliders and get all sorts of other info. They advertise that they back test this stuff but I don't know exactly where they get their data from - maybe we can shoot them an email or something to find out. I see these guys on CNBC somewhat often.