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mikecomputing is offline mikecomputing
2012-09-02 , 14:47
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#1111
no there is no android support. Again that is fF
alse or bad translations and rumors.

for the 100 time: jolla will use Mer core and Qt!

and about tizen its more vapoware than jolla atm...
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2012-09-02 , 18:39
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#1112
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you^ on Tizen being vaporware
http://youtu.be/rJ1y7CpIaVA
http://youtu.be/nkfd-2cLq-g
http://youtu.be/x3bpBIHobqQ

Tizen image and flashing instructions
http://tizentalk.com/
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MartinK is offline MartinK
2012-09-02 , 19:16
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#1113
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Makes me want to get a galaxy note 2 and install ubuntu on it and then wine and have a little pc I can use to create CNC tool paths.
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Won't work. At least not with any usable speed. Wine is not an emulator - it can't run x86 Windows applications on an ARM architecture. You would need Qemu to emulate a complete x86 processor on your ARM device and a lot of other tweaks.
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2012-09-02 , 19:41
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#1114
Yep, Wine doesn't emulate the CPU. It does emulate Windows though
 
petur is offline petur
2012-09-02 , 19:49
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Yep, Wine doesn't emulate the CPU. It does emulate Windows though
Wine Is Not an Emulator

IIUC they just want to implement the APIs, not emulate the OS. But as they try to support more apps the line is getting blurry
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mikecomputing is offline mikecomputing
2012-09-02 , 20:00
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Originally Posted by aironeous View Post
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you^ on Tizen being vaporware
http://youtu.be/rJ1y7CpIaVA
http://youtu.be/nkfd-2cLq-g
http://youtu.be/x3bpBIHobqQ

Tizen image and flashing instructions
http://tizentalk.com/
its just a toy/prorotype IMHO

I still doubt samsung will use it in the end, they are to much in bed with google and microsoft, and if they dont use it why would other? In case of meego/qt we already HAS consumer products running it. Jolla may have little bigger chance sell with meego+Qt than those trying core tizen. In that case they better cooperate wit team behind bb10 both could win on that in case of more qt apps. Also webos team is better choice than tizen IMHO.
 
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2012-09-02 , 21:05
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#1117
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
OMFG , dear lord this is ..huh woah!
This is a concept for the Intel phone about a year old.
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2012-09-02 , 21:22
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#1118
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
its just a toy/prorotype IMHO

I still doubt samsung will use it in the end, they are to much in bed with google and microsoft, and if they dont use it why would other? In case of meego/qt we already HAS consumer products running it. Jolla may have little bigger chance sell with meego+Qt than those trying core tizen. In that case they better cooperate wit team behind bb10 both could win on that in case of more qt apps. Also webos team is better choice than tizen IMHO.
Yeah i have zero trust on Samsung making Tizen to anything bigger Nokia made MeeGo.
Jolla gathering more twitter members in 6hrs than the year old Tizen was kind of showing in that. No, it's not the facto number to measure OS success, but it still tells something about it's popularity.


The media space Tizen is getting is way less than Maemo or MeeGo got and the developer interest seems to be lower. It's not like Maemo/MeeGo had huge interest compared to the big guys anyways.
 
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2012-09-02 , 23:10
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#1119
Originally Posted by petur View Post
Wine Is Not an Emulator
Of the CPU. It emulates Windows by supplying DLLs natively built for various OSes. I.e. providing the API is "emulating" the OS to some degree. Not 100% exactly though.
 
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2012-09-03 , 03:25
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Of the CPU. It emulates Windows by supplying DLLs natively built for various OSes. I.e. providing the API is "emulating" the OS to some degree. Not 100% exactly though.
To summarize: There is a difference between simply providing DLL's and emulating instructions for software to run on.

Details: Yes, it provides DLL's natively built for various OS's. The problem, as has been explained earlier, is that it is NOT an emulator and does not emulate the x86 instructions needed to run x86 software to MAKE those Windows calls. You can ONLY make WINE run on x86 hardware (reasonably fast, depending) or on EMULATED x86 hardware (always, ALWAYS slow!).
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