Originally Posted by biggz

Yeah what the heck? I get a bit frustrated with this problem as well. I find myself hold the stylus in my mouth so I can type, finger & tap. What would be real nice is a scroll wheel on the right side similar to a blackberry.

Originally Posted by Benz145

I'm really disappointed about the interface on OS2008, mainly because it has so much wasted potential.

[rant]It is really bothersome that it seems like the interface is designed 50% for finger navigation and 50% for stylus navigation. You have things that are wonderful for the finger like the Application Menu. It couldn't be easier or faster to navigate your way through the different categories and find the app you want, its great.

Now lets say I use my thumbs to launch the Control Panel in seconds and what do I see? I see a bunch of very thin icons with text next to them that are tough to click on without a stylus, and on top of that - take a look at the scroll bar. Clearly set to stylus friendly width. The kicker is that there is actually plenty of room for a finger wide scroll bar on the Control Panel.

What else do we have... Contacts. This one is great because half of the app is finger oriented and the other half stylus. On the right side we have very thin categories (All, Online, Recent, etcetera) and a bar that separates the left side which would never be grabbed without the help of a stylus. Then on the left we have nice wide fields with icons and a big finger sized scroll bar. So what... we need to get the stylus out to select the contact category on the right then we can easily navigate with our fingers on the left? Also when you try to add a contact you are greeted with incredibly thin fields for inputting information but right at the bottom of that same box there are decently sized finger friendly buttons. None of that would really be an issue except there is zero flow when trying to go from stylus to finger input or vice versa, it is terribly inefficient.

Riddle me this - Why are the drop down menus of each application so small and stylus oriented? The Application Menu has such a well done finger interface, why can't the drop down menus use the same size/width and model (cascading lists)? There is plenty of room on the screen and the method has already been proven and written.

The Application Manager is nearly the exact opposite as the Control Panel. Whereas the Application manager is a very finger friendly application (except for the scroll bar) the control panel is the finger's bane (as mentioned above). Why on earth are there two different applications on the same system that are so vastly different? Can't we just make all the applications either one or the other? My personal preference would be finger input, but honestly I think I'd rather have either then both at the same time.[/rant]

This is just a short list of examples of contradictory finger/stylus oriented applications, I wish developers would just pick one, or maybe give us options for what we'd like to use. It really is a shame because the N810 has such a nice touch screen. The pressure needed to interpret an input is so little, it almost feels like active touch. With such a good screen its unfortunate that half of our applications are still using stylus input which was originally made to help a person make one point of input, which we can now easily do with the finger.

Can I get an amen?

Originally Posted by bartsimpson123844

And yes, you can change the size of the icons in the control panel by clicking on the menu bar (top left of screen), click on view, large icons.

Originally Posted by Benz145

How can we get developers to work on new and better finger UIs?

Originally Posted by Milhouse

Just get rid of scrollbars - all applications should support page scrolling... the fat scrollbar is an abomination, and the mix of control methods is indicative of a complete lack of any unified vision within Nokia - this should all have been put to bed with OS 2006, certainly OS 2007.