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#1391
I thought you were name-calling...
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
About "lack of communication" :

They use utube, planetqt, qt-project.org, twitter, facebook, IRC, G+ and is mainly as you said "developers". Many of them is working freetime with development because thats mainly what they like to do. Marketing is something that others can help with by following those "channels".
That's almost 10 bookmarks I'd have to parse through for one piece of information and how it may, or may not, play out in the grand scheme of things. I personally don't find that too efficient.

Compare it to coming here for idle chat and chat from developers and announcements for all things Maemo. If I wanted to, I know the location for all things MeeGo.

Not the case for Jolla. We shouldn't have to seek out that much for the whole picture. The moment we want intricate/intimate details, then all of the above you've listed is what's necessary to drill down into that and make sure we're well informed in dev and announcements around bits we specify as intriguing.

I am sure we can help them with marketing by spread the world about what happens in the MER, Meego, QT world.
Being a part of the "street team" is only good when we're all informed equally and fully.

We're not.

So Again its upto us helping getting the communications forwarded to people who not sitting on IRC etc... Remember the community includes everyone on this forum except the trolls So its up to us.
Okay this... I fully agree with 100%

Personally I dont see any communication problems so far from the mer team. Just following the above channels and you get the info and can help by post cool intresting stuff here or elsewhere when it comes up.
I disagree fully here. I don't see a communication problem per se, I see a potential communication problem. And unconfirmed information - which may very well be interesting - is not what I want to read. I want confirmed information, locations of where I can go to be better informed on SDK's and a full picture painted and where I should go to make sure it's an official resource and not a blog that loves clicks more than they do the truth.
 
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Do you think jolla will pull a web stream release or will they keep the limited information and announce it on twitter?

If I were them. I would have done a small but special campaign to trigger extra interested. with a 30 days countdown.

One short movie every day, where they asking avrage joe on the street a specific interesting question so that the world slowly get a picture of the phone. but without seeing the phone. (except for the customer or if the want to use actors)

day 1.
Q:what do you think this is?
A: It's the future!

day2: question about specific design or features or usability:

day3 and so forth until the last day release the image of the phone and full spec and SDK's and other stuff. This all shall be presented on jolla.com
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Dave999, IMO that would be a very wrong move!

Remember this is small [and insignificant in size] Company not some large MNC that can hype things up...

The more they hype the higher the chances of people being disappointed! Remember always under-promise and over-deliver!

Do Apple, constantly come out with such before launching the new iPhone or iPad? They don't as they want to present one "magical" package on announcement day for everyone to get wowed...
 
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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
Dave999, IMO that would be a very wrong move!

Remember this is small [and insignificant in size] Company not some large MNC that can hype things up...

The more they hype the higher the chances of people being disappointed! Remember always under-promise and over-deliver!

Do Apple, constantly come out with such before launching the new iPhone or iPad? They don't as they want to present one "magical" package on announcement day for everyone to get wowed...
Sure but they are also on everybody's radar with blogs, newspapers, users etc. They dont need to get out there.

jolla on the other hand would get lots of press for free if the slowly announced small things without announcing the real deal or actual featuers. Bloggers and maybe even newspaper would pick up some of the information and more people would now about jolla.

They dont need the hype. the need to get out the word of their existence.
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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
Dave999, IMO that would be a very wrong move!

Remember this is small [and insignificant in size] Company not some large MNC that can hype things up...

The more they hype the higher the chances of people being disappointed! Remember always under-promise and over-deliver!

Do Apple, constantly come out with such before launching the new iPhone or iPad? They don't as they want to present one "magical" package on announcement day for everyone to get wowed...
I wholeheartedly agree.

I think the way Jolla are going about things is pretty well the best way for them.
Nothing wrong with us here speculating about Jolla and what device they may release but I think sometimes it gets a little too far-fetched and crazy.

And no matter what we want or wish it matters little until they actually produce and bring to market their first device.
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so what is best when you announcing your phone.

If
one man know about the company?
or
five men knows about the company?

knowledge of the companies selling. You do know companies using commercials for a reason, right?
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You can't promote / advertise a product until there is a product ready to come to market and therefore be promoted / advertised.
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Originally Posted by dumpystig View Post
You can't promote / advertise a product until there is a product ready to come to market.
Im not talking about the product. Im taling about the name JOLLA.

Im not talking about a hype. I talking about to get the name out.

Im not talking the actuall product, im talking about leads to give blogs and pople to open there eyes and connect jolla to something the knowing about when its time for release.

Im talking about friends talking about jolla and spreading the word.
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OK. But do you not think credit should be given to Jolla for doing things how they feel is best. It's not up to you / us to plan / decide how they should be going forward.
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