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2012-12-05 , 08:54
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
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You seem to be trying to exercise "cherry-picking." The key word you used was 'relative', in addition to trying to choose a best-case scenario for what you wish was a trend... once again, framing things in the best light possible despite the fact that you could also frame a user-base that went from one user to two users in the last six months in a large meeting room as 'doubled marketshare!' despite still only being two users in a crowded building full of comparatively thousands of other users of anything else. That's hardly 'viable.'







I do.
Cherrypicking would be to choose 1 or two countries and generalize a trend out of the data. Europe is big, lots of people and there are great differences from place to place. Besides, for now WP is sold mainly in Europe. But most important, Europe is what counts.
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2012-12-05 , 08:58
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The population of Europe is less than that of India or China...If you picked only India or China's stats you would yourself say:

Cherrypicking would be to choose 1 or two countries and generalize a trend out of the data.
So you ARE indeed cherrypicking specc...
 
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2012-12-05 , 10:30
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Originally Posted by specc View Post
Cherrypicking would be to choose 1 or two countries and generalize a trend out of the data. Europe is big, lots of people and there are great differences from place to place. Besides, for now WP is sold mainly in Europe. But most important, Europe is what counts.
No, it's pretty clear cherry-picking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking_(fallacy)
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed unintentionally.

The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the fruit is in such good condition.
To your point anyway, Europe doesn't appear to be quite as important to Windows Phone as you make it out to be:
http://bgr.com/2012/12/04/windows-ph...rging-markets/

Anyway, here's a little something to lighten the mood:
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2012-12-05 , 10:53
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LoL, you are doing great work here, writing a great script for the new movie Trollmageddon. Its about a gang of trolls who are selected to save the world from an asteroid, the size of Texas . You will all have a role.

I can collect your requirments to perticipate, these are the request I've got so far:

Well, there's uh, few things here, uh... nothin' really big, uh, just- Well, as an example, uh, uh, danramos here, he's got some outstanding parking tickets. Wants them wiped off his record.

Uh, thedead1440's got two women friends that he'd like to see made American citizens no questions asked.

specc would like you to... bring back eight-track tapes.

Um, Lumiaman wants a full week's Emperor's Package at Caesar's Palace.

Yeah, daperl like to stay in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House for the summer.

If you have any more request. Please send them ASAP.

Yeah one more thing, um... none of them wanna pay taxes again.

Ever.
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2012-12-05 , 12:00
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Dave and what role would be you playing? The Director, Producer or Spot-Boy who cleans up everyone's mess when they leave
 
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2012-12-05 , 13:29
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NOKIA's first viable WPx device?

This is the first NOKIA WPx device I can actually imagine people buying.
 
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2012-12-05 , 14:23
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter View Post
NOKIA's first viable WPx device?

This is the first NOKIA WPx device I can actually imagine people buying.
Looks ok. Pretty cheap as well. Anyone uning nokia music. Is that any good?

Nokia stock loves this device It's like a jelly bean with all the colours.
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2012-12-05 , 15:15
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Looks ok. Pretty cheap as well. Anyone uning nokia music. Is that any good?

Nokia stock loves this device It's like a jelly bean with all the colours.
Nokia music is OK. The really good thing is everything is vanilla mp3 with no DRM strings attached.
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2012-12-05 , 15:26
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
No, it's pretty clear cherry-picking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking_(fallacy)
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed unintentionally.

The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the fruit is in such good condition.
To your point anyway, Europe doesn't appear to be quite as important to Windows Phone as you make it out to be:
http://bgr.com/2012/12/04/windows-ph...rging-markets/

Anyway, here's a little something to lighten the mood:
so you are prooving my cherrypickiness by cherrypicking a biased article you have to do better than that old boy.

If the user base of WP is largest in Europe, then clearly most WP sales are done there and not some other desolate place. You cannot argue that WP is large in Europe by arguing that WP is small in Europe. It makes no sense.
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2012-12-05 , 15:39
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Can we just skip straight to the Pee-Wee Herman type of insults and be done with it?

I know you are, but what am I?
 
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