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What can sailfish do that others can't? How will they break?

Android have its strength, Windows have its strength, iOS had its strength...

Sailfish has...
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Sailfish has normal multithreading. Android doesn't.
 
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Sailfish has normal multithreading. Android doesn't.
Yeah, but i doubt that give them any real amount of users, most users don't care since you can switch tasks on other OSes too. That is not a feature that gives them any big amount of users. Don't think what you want but what attract users.
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Marketing attracts users. I was reading a survey yesterday from 2010. Symbian had 36% market share though only 12% pf customers new what symbian was. Do you think those people were going to ask for symbian again witj all the hype with android?

Nokia failed to establish popular identification of their phones as smartphones and that was their biggest problem. Symbian and maemo were way ahead of android in 2009-10. What good did that make? It was all about marketing.
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Originally Posted by qwazix View Post
Marketing attracts users. I was reading a survey yesterday from 2010. Symbian had 36% market share though only 12% pf customers new what symbian was. Do you think those people were going to ask for symbian again witj all the hype with android?

Nokia failed to establish popular identification of their phones as smartphones and that was their biggest problem. Symbian and maemo were way ahead of android in 2009-10. What good did that make? It was all about marketing.
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Marketing + Increased lack of user privacy = Increased market share
 
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Well, interesting that's case windows is a sure success in the future and jolla can only hope to survive its first device and hope some big shark take over the Compony and start a real marketing campaign.
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Sailfish has normal multithreading. Android doesn't.
Define 'normal' (as opposed to what?)?
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Define 'normal' (as opposed to what?)?
As opposed to crippled pthread support in bionic which is used by Android. See https://lwn.net/Articles/519313/
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As opposed to crippled pthread support in bionic which is used by Android. See https://lwn.net/Articles/519313/
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Yeah, but i doubt that give them any real amount of users, most users don't care since you can switch tasks on other OSes too. That is not a feature that gives them any big amount of users. Don't think what you want but what attract users.
I reckon they want to do their numbers with new users in China. People really don't care about their (smart)phones... at least most of them. If you have enough money, you get an iPhone (or a SGS3, but your pocket has to be big too), if you don't have much money you get a lower end Android.

Most people who actually use their phones for talking, they'll buy a dumbphone - at least this is what I observed in my travels. Some would even sport a Nokia 5800 - but they'll be talking constantly on them. Never seen that happen with an iPhone/Samsung/HTC, espcially on the train.

For me, I like Meego, I regret not getting an N900 in the past, and would like the project to continue. Is it Sailfish now? So be it. iOS can't compare in any way - next year I'll get an Android and I'll tell you my thoughts are. I'm already feeling too lazy to have to run a tcpdump and see what the Android is talking to.
 
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