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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Close, but not exactly
That's like saying Coca Cola re-defined the very essence of what a ship is. Safety, payload, the ability to stay afloat in the first place - unimportant. Taste, refreshment, American image - all important.
the "only" similarity from a higher level design point of view of old school S60 and the iPhone is the ability to make a call. So, the iShip stays afloat. You can say that the S60 ship can handle all waters, any storm etc etc, but the point is that most people don't give a ****. They only want something that floats, but with a bar, a dance floor, they want to have a party. The rest is history.
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by specc
Well, still, you cannot say that they "re-defined the very essence of what a smartphone was" if they didn't make smartphones in the first place. You're right that most people don't give a tralala, but that only means that most people don't want a smartphone,. They just want a fancy UI and Angry Birds. So what Apple and others re-defined was the price and the UI of a feature phone. They didn't even enter the smartphone market.
You can say that the S60 ship can handle all waters, any storm etc etc, but the point is that most people don't give a ****. They only want something that floats, but with a bar, a dance floor, they want to have a party. The rest is history.
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by specc
+1 people want a mini tablet with a 3G modem that can sometimes make/receive calls and texts (depending where you live).
the "only" similarity from a higher level design point of view of old school S60 and the iPhone is the ability to make a call. So, the iShip stays afloat. You can say that the S60 ship can handle all waters, any storm etc etc, but the point is that most people don't give a ****. They only want something that floats, but with a bar, a dance floor, they want to have a party. The rest is history.
Today I saw a 60 (+/- 5) yr old couple on the train:
(he produces a SGS1, probably somebody gave it to him)
He: yeah, I've got this now.
(she grabs it, holds it, weighs it, swipes through the desktops, all in 10 seconds)
She: it's alright
He: I still have to learn how to use it
(he swipes a bit more, puts it back in his pocket)
(she grabs her iPhone 4, swipes a little bit through the desktops)
She: This one is definitely quicker.
He: oh, is it?
I just can't stop loving how people in general percieve technology.
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2012-12-10
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so true......I have to say that iOS is addictive, just took the SIM out of LUMIA 920 and put it back into iphone4s, iphone still better when it comes to typing on the screen, so fewer errors, and just smoother overall. Both are miles ahead of N900 or N9....
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2012-12-10
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I wonder what will it take for a company to make a phone with a full featured desktop and a hardware keyboard. Miss the old days.
I'm just starting to have doubts on Jolla for some reason. To me, Jolla will be a whole lot like the N9, in term of the openness and they might also avoid hardware keyboards. Maybe I'm just impatient.
I'm just starting to have doubts on Jolla for some reason. To me, Jolla will be a whole lot like the N9, in term of the openness and they might also avoid hardware keyboards. Maybe I'm just impatient.
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N9 *stolen* → N900 *died* → N900 *on hiatus* → OnePlus X
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by benny1967
I can and I do
Well, still, you cannot say that they "re-defined the very essence of what a smartphone was" if they didn't make smartphones in the first place. You're right that most people don't give a tralala, but that only means that most people don't want a smartphone,. They just want a fancy UI and Angry Birds. So what Apple and others re-defined was the price and the UI of a feature phone. They didn't even enter the smartphone market.
the point is that super functional ship that could travel any water in any weather simply isn't defined as a smartphone by the majority of smartphone users (no matter what the correct definition might be). A smartphone has to have a bar and a dance floor, that is the definition today.The fact that I have used smartphones long before the iPhone existed, and wouldn't even consider the iPhone as a smartphone, hardly any androids for that matter, this is irrelevant. The girls and the grandmothers have stolen the smartphone.
Smartphones are getting boring. There's lots more fun stuff happening with smart tvs and related stuff atm.
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
I disagree.... N9 at least is far better than iOS in any way I can think of, except perhaps that iOS has copy/paste in the mail application. Then, reception, maps, battery life, swype, multitasking and browser are the things that I can think off the top of my head that iOS can't do as well.
so true......I have to say that iOS is addictive, just took the SIM out of LUMIA 920 and put it back into iphone4s, iphone still better when it comes to typing on the screen, so fewer errors, and just smoother overall. Both are miles ahead of N900 or N9....
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
You never used iOS. Sorry, but 100 million + people cant be wrong.
I disagree.... N9 at least is far better than iOS in any way I can think of, except perhaps that iOS has copy/paste in the mail application. Then, reception, maps, battery life, swype, multitasking and browser are the things that I can think off the top of my head that iOS can't do as well.
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2012-12-10
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Do you see the contradiction in your sentence? You accuse someone of not having used iOS and quantify it with the 100+ million people stat; conversely do you mean those people tried Harmattan before sticking with iOS?
You never used iOS. Sorry, but 100 million + people cant be wrong.
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Most of the hw (except for some notable areas) was quite anemic, it was to be improved substantially in 2 devices due H1 2012, but they never saw daylight ofc.
Nokia's industrial design/aesthetic & BQ is currently not a stand-out at all, there's plenty doing as well (or better) in that area now.
Last edited by jalyst; 2012-12-10 at 04:35.