Dear Jolla,

Thank you for your response to our Open Letter. As you can see from the community conversation regarding your response — here, as well as various social media circles — most of our members want more. The Hildon Foundation appreciate the invitation to become "true pioneers," but in all honesty, the Maemo community has been a true pioneer for many years now as a unique open source initiative combining developers and users with a community repository of applications and platform components.

This being said, we understand that Jolla is a future that we would like to help make successful if possible. Currently, neither Jolla nor any Jolla affiliates affiliates (Mer, Nemo, Sailfish OS, etc.) have any sort of "community," user base, or public space for communication to speak of. These assets can be extended if, for example, you are interested in a community repository, cross-platform development, or helping developers migrate to Sailfish. We had already intended to provide a public space for Jolla/Nemo/Sailfish and will continue to do so regardless. Would Jolla like to help with any of these efforts that will benefit Jolla?

We thank you for indicating on our website that Jolla agrees to support a Sailfish on N900 project. Of course, our community contains the world's most knowledgeable developers on the N900 device. We would promote and host the project in a variety of ways to leverage our existing expertise and bring in new participants.

What type of support and/or cooperation does Jolla envision providing?

Thank you,
The Hildon Foundation

Original Link: http://hildonfoundation.org/jolla-part-2/

From Jolla's response: "We are today participating in the openly developed and open source Mer and Nemo Mobile projects which includes sponsoring parts of their operational budgets. These projects have very small budgets and have based their operations around being able to do big things"

Are they aware we're only asking for a small donation? $1000 would go a long way.

In addition to an open letter, I strongly recommend private negotiations regarding what TMO can do in promoting Jolla and particularly development for Jolla as well as future collaboration when the first Sailfish device is finally released.

just curious , would a wider "libre mobile community " could help to keep us united (zaurus, openmoko, mameo,meego,webos,jolla,etc) ?

Sorry, where did they "indicate" that they would support a sailfish on the n900?

@MINKIN2, see http://hildonfoundation.org/open-let...la/#comment-58

they didn't. they said that they would support the community if the community started a project on porting. the way they used the support in this case seems to indicate that they would give their blessing, rather than do the actual porting themselves (which they have explicitly stated multiple times)

I also understand it as simply endorsing the effort in this case, not like providing funds for it. But of course you can contact them directly to clarify what they meant.

My reading of their response is not very encouraging. I think they will contribute to projects that only benefit them

Frankly, as a Maemo user, I am embarassed by all of this. I'm not a very active Maemo user and maybe I have missed a lot of communication that has gone on. But Jolla is not Microsoft... they're a little start-up with a tight budget that hasn't even released yet. What made "us" think that they had money to spare?

Most of the people at Jolla probably are or were members here in the past. I'm sure they'll partner in some way when the time is right.

I am just thrilled they are bringing an updated open mobile OS to market.

TBH, I think we should be careful how we play this proposed Jolla/Maemo.org relationship at present. It's still early days (very early days).
I'm pleased with what they have offered so far and the fact that they've left the door open for further negotiation. We don't want to come across as little kids wanting more ice-cream or we'll scream the house down.
Jolla have got a tight deadline to get a device to market around mid 2013, we shouldn't divert too much of their attention from that (their most important) task.