Well, the good news is that Linux and Mac support are planned. But limited resources and prioritization and all that jazz.

Before we get into the Windows bashing territory in this thread, please read the Betalabs blog post about this topic:
http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2007/...or-developers/

Can you please file a bug report about this at https://bugs.maemo.org? Attaching (to the bug report) a small sample of the file that won't convert properly would be very helpful.

Actually, if you add everything up, you will see that windows users are a minority. I'm not complaining, but I don't see why they didn't just make a cross platform app to start with. All the necessary codecs are open source and cross platform(AFAICT), and QT 4 has native support for all desktop OSs.

Anyway, thanks for the great app, the update, and the fact that you are actually concerned about your users.

Actually they're not. They're quite the majority. Maybe not the people that post to ITT, but in regards to the general tablet-using population, they're very much the majority

That would delay the release of the software by 3-4 months. And I wanted to get it out as a beta ASAP. We released the beta as XP only. We just added Vista support. And OS X support is in the works.

Not even close. Sorry. The Open Source projects are mostly based on mencoder, which itself uses reverse-engineered codecs. I don't want to argue the legalities/ethics of that here, but the bottom line is that Nokia cannot legally redistribute those codecs. Which is why we have this app, which uses commercial codecs to do the work. You can decide for yourself on the difference in quality between this project and others.

Right, and we need *much* more than QuickTime support for the amount of video/audio formats we support.

Thanks for the kind words and the feedback. We actually do listen to our users, even if doesn't seem like it sometimes

... and I'm still pissed off about Nokias attitude towards OGG. It is a free, high quality open source codec and not only does the IT not have ogg support out of the box(it is the #1 download on maemo.org), nokia is actively trying to suppress it and called it a "proprietary" format. It (almost) makes me regret purchasing my tablet.

Sorry, bad capitalization on my part. I meant Qt, not QT. Qt is a commercial cross platform toolkit from Trolltech that you could have used. It has native support for Windows/OSX/Linux/BSD/Solaris. Google used it for Google Earth. There is also a Qt 4 demo app in one of the IT repos(a text editor).

Anyway, if you ever need a beta tester for the linux version, pm me.

That says they are going to try for Vista and mac next. It says Linux will be tough because of codec problem.

I paid $420 for the N800 in 2007, and I chose it because I am a Linux guy and I mistakenly thought Nokia was too. Too bad.

PJ

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Indeed. And what do some people do? They get on their high horses and start bashing him.

I wish people would start thinking about Nokia's actions from a COMMERCIAL perspective. They run a business, not a damn charity, and it irks me that almost every other post here is about someone whinging about something Nokia "should" have done in their opinion, without understanding that the key to a successful product is based on the 80/20 rule. Focus 80% of your project resources to address the top 20% of users/ commonly-desired functions, etc.

Though I do not use the Nokia Internet Tablet Video Converter, I do appreciate the fact that they have added Vista support, drag and drop queuing, etc to the new version, keeping in mind that the really smart users out there are the ones on Linux and the man-on-the-street users are the ones who use Windows because it came with their Dell/PackardBell/etc or because their office machines runs Windows.

'Smart' users don't need to use this software, they probably have other means, using tablet-encode or any of the available 3rd party freeware to do their video encoding/conversion. It's the 'common', i.e. 80% of users out there who aren't THAT savvy and who do not frequent forums like these who count on Nokia to release software that they can use easily, people like my mum or my sister, people who want to focus on getting simple results like video and MP3 and internet working rather than trying to boot from MMC, running KDE, etc.

80% of the 'common' people out there who bought into the promise of the Nokia Internet Tablet probably find that it works for them. Easy to set up with their Wifi access point at home or in the office, easy to set it up to work with their mobile phone, web browsing works, VoIP works on GoogleTalk and Gizmo, POP email works as do webmail services, music plays back fine, internet radio works, video podcasts download, etc.

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Exactly right. There's multiple issues here actually:
1) How do we package/distribute it so that it works on all flavors of Linux and
2) The codec issues.

I am trying to find out the licensing issues regarding #2, but it's definitely not an easy/quick solution unfortunately.

I think if you search this forum you'll about 8 bazillion (well, maybe slightly less ) video conversion solutions for Linux. Andrew's tablet-encode, for example, is one that I think is really clever and well done. This is not about being a Linux lover/hater (fyi, I am a Linux lover/user even outside my job) but about serving the needs of our customers.

I'm just waiting for someone to retort now that Linux and Mac users who bought the NiT are Nokia's customers too.

I think I had too much coffee this morning....