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2013-02-26
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#612
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Originally Posted by jalyst
I dont need the topmost I am more scared I will not see the device in Sweden
Sigh... what a joke... Jolla, Jolla, Jolla...
I also suspected they were going to shift the goal posts on it being a truly premium end device, to one that's "kinda high-end".
Because I reckon they're using something quite mediocre like the U8500, or the next model up at best (not the topmost one).
And if only finland It may very well be operator locked so no way to import
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2013-02-26
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#613
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Don't worry, none of the operators lock phones in Finland anymore. Not even TeliaSonera locks the iStupid.
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2013-02-26
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Originally Posted by slarti
I'm not worried about that. I'm more worried we won't even see a phone on Any market. If they just like that lied about summer. What makes you think they won't push it another 6 month to July 2014? Then they have it right again becouse its summer... They don't have a clue what they are doing!
Don't worry, none of the operators lock phones in Finland anymore. Not even TeliaSonera locks the iStupid.
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2013-02-26
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Originally Posted by Dave999
No it's next yr, it varies from year-to-year but it's generally within Q1, next year it's 31/01...
When is Chinese new year? During summer?
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2013-02-26
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Where is the will, there is the way.. Of corse we must get it to Sweden too and other neighbors! I personaly don't beleave, that there is going to be any operator lock.
I dont need the topmost I am more scared I will not see the device in Sweden
But what a f! End of the year! So, the Sailfish is not that ready after all... Ubuntu phone vs Jolla? Well.. One good thing. I bought LG Nexux 4
Welcome Ubuntu phone OS.
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2013-02-26
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We started the year with Ubuntu not being available till Q1 next year, then they guaranteed by October, Sailfish shifted from Aug. at the latest* to mid-Dec in a few EU countries, & everywhere else (which will be very few -completely Eastern- countries initially) by mid-Q1 2014 >.> And Ubuntu's so uninteresting compared to Sailfish, it's basically just CM with a QML shell**, but they're executing so much better, they're going have a way more vibrant community long before Jolla gets going >.>
*or early Sept, "Summer" is def. no later than that
**there's a bit more to it than that
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*or early Sept, "Summer" is def. no later than that
**there's a bit more to it than that
Last edited by jalyst; 2013-02-26 at 20:33. Reason: typo
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Originally Posted by Makeclick
ROTFL Ubuntumobile will be WAY from ready even next year. And depends on Android WTF :/
Where is the will, there is the way.. Of corse we must get it to Sweden too and other neighbors! I personaly don't beleave, that there is going to be any operator lock.
But what a f! End of the year! So, the Sailfish is not that ready after all... Ubuntu phone vs Jolla? Well.. One good thing. I bought LG Nexux 4
Mer+SalfishOS is far more ready right now.
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2013-02-26
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I don't care only about how optimised the sw is, or how open/flexible it is, specs DO MATTER...
Esp. for a co. like Jolla which has sold itself as: "we're just as much about the hw as the sw", & "we will offer a premium end device".
They need a "Nexus" ph to spark some momentum around Sailfish, having awesome code is only part of the equation, sure probably the most important, but specs are still weighty.
If the specs aren't top-notch, then the price better not remain "premium" as well... >.>
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Esp. for a co. like Jolla which has sold itself as: "we're just as much about the hw as the sw", & "we will offer a premium end device".
They need a "Nexus" ph to spark some momentum around Sailfish, having awesome code is only part of the equation, sure probably the most important, but specs are still weighty.
If the specs aren't top-notch, then the price better not remain "premium" as well... >.>
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2013-02-26
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Originally Posted by jalyst
If developers and the community start show the world how far more ready sailfish SDK is, Jolla can take back the developers.
We started the year with Ubuntu not being available till Q1 next year, then they guaranteed by October, Sailfish shifted from Aug. at the latest* to mid-Dec in a few EU countries, & everywhere else (which will be very few -completely Eastern- countries initially) by mid-Q1 2014 >.> And Ubuntu's so uninteresting compared to Sailfish, it's basically just CM with a QML shell**, but they're executing so much better, they're going have a way more vibrant community long before Jolla gets going >.>
*or early Sept, "Summer" is def. no later than that
**there's a bit more to it than that
Sf-OS is already WAY more intresting that Ubuntus halfbacked touchos. Especially for all those developers in the QT and KDE community.
So there is still hope. But first strategy now, for Jolla, is to get the library opened so it can be ported to N9 ASAP. This is VERY IMPORTANT if they want apps ported to theyr comming device!
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I also suspected they were going to shift the goal posts on it being a "truly premium device", to one that's "kinda high-end".
Partly because they're probably using something quite mediocre like the U8500, or the next model up at best (not the top-most one*).
With availability not till Dec or later, it's sheer stupidity to continue with their original plans to outline everything about the device within Q1.
If they do that & it doesn't have some very strong specs or at least one or two unique or top-notch hw aspects, then it's a major set-back
Sure the small community that's always rallied around Maemo/MeeGo et al will probably (at least partly) stick by them, but it won't get much wider momentum/appeal.
We'd have to hope that another Sailfish vendor does much better hw-wise, but then they prolly won't have some of the nice sw that Jolla plans to keep exclusive.
And the only vendors we've heard about so far aren't exactly well-known for quality builds, the best they may do is put powerful core components in there, & not value-add much elsewhere.
I pray to God this is a total BS story, & they're just "talking out of their ***" by making-up stuff that was never said...
*then again, being released in Dec+ now means the topmost one is possible, but there's still some Qn over how "truly competitive" that SoC is, esp. in Dec/Jan.
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