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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
- Its free
- It encodes your mp3s at 64kb/s but retains the quality of a 128 recording
- It takes up less than half the space of the original mp3. Essentially allowing you to double your storage of audio.... very big
- It'll play on anything that will or can play an mp3 file....no problem.
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Unfortunately none of that is quite true.

Free
Yes, for the Thomson demo (which is ancient). There still remains, to the best of my knowledge, asubstantial lciencin fee on a per unit basis to manufacturers of codes and decoders, frees which are substantially (50-100%) higher than for mp3.

It encodes your mp3s at 64kb/s but retains the quality of a 128 recording
Nope. The quality is equivalent to somewhere between 96kb/s and 128kb/s. And then only if you encode form the highest possibl;WAV, preferable the original.

less than half the space of the original mp3.
Er, depends. It takes up more space than a normal 64Kb/s MP3 (since in essence it IS a 64Kb/s MP3 with an additional stream carrying the higher frequencies)

It'll play on anything that will or can play an mp3 file
Indeed. On the other hand it'll only playback the 64Kb/s part and totally ignore the PRO part if your player is not an MP3Pro player. Which almost nothing is these days*, and certainly not the players on the n800, n810 and n900 or, indeed, the n9. So if you've been hearing a difference ... well, it is, I'm afraid, all in your mind.

In other words all you are doing is turning your 128Kb/s mp3 into a 64Kb/s mp3. Only with a file size that will be slightly larger than a genuine 64kb/s mp3.

Obviously they were going the right direction in their r&d to entice or worry a corp like dolby to absorb them into a division of their company.
Entice, rather than worry, I'd argue. The spectral band replication (SBR) technique originally developed for mp3pro made its way in HE-AAC.

An irony might be that HE-AAC v2 is also commonly known as enhanced AAC Plus, or eAAC+, which is the M4A format that Nokia PC Suite used to like converting your music files to before downloading to your phone ...

*If you bother looking at the MP3Pro website that you yourself link, you'll notice that all the devices and software mentioned are at least 10 years old. They suggest that they'll update the site when they hear anything new. It was last updated in 2005 ...
 

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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
If out of a scientific study conducted only 5% of test subjects could guess the right answers as to the sound quality. Half of that number "believed" they were right and I'm sure that half of that number knew were right. So that is around 1% absolutely knew. Having a frequency range that more than 95% of people cannot even detect impresses whom?.
OK. Let's say you have two options:

(a) encode using standard MP3 with, say, 128Kbit/s
(b) encode using MP3pro with, say, 224Kbit/s (or whatever produces the same file size as standard MP3), at the expense of losing compatbility with just about anything in this world.

(a) and (b) would take the same size, but according to the study you mention nobody would tell the difference.

If you choose a lower bitrate on (b), the size would be smaller, the quality (according to your study) would still play no role, but the compatibility problem would still be there. Easy solution: just lower the bitrate on (a).

Obviously, if bitrate actually makes a difference (and I suppose it does at some point, to *my* ears mp3 with 4kbps is sufficient , then you want to maximize the information a -- standard -- player can use, and that's something you can only achieve with a standard format, i.e. not mp3pro.
 
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Originally Posted by reinob View Post
at the expense of losing compatbility with just about anything in this world.
See my commment just before yours. There is not a compatibility issue

Originally Posted by reinob View Post
encode using MP3pro with, say, 224Kbit/s (or whatever produces the same file size as standard MP3)
96Kbs is a fast as mp3pro gets (giving you an equivalent mp3 rate of somewhere between about 120 to 192kbs)
 
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