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	penguinbait	2008-01-22 , 19:55
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Originally Posted by dubwise

Having your default theme in there is a real saver.
I can mess it up and then put it back.

Where's the soft keyboard icon?

The fullscreen button is really helpful, works in many apps.
I hadn't spotted it before.

I think there are mutiple issues with the right click implementation.
Sometimes it doesn't seem to do anything.
Sometimes it turns into every other click is a right click.
Sometimes it gets stuck on right click, and all I can do is power down.
Once I logged out after using right clicks,
and the sound and wifi tray widgets in Maemo didn't work.
Brightness still did.

Menus work much better, they're persistent and not so twitchy.

Is there a chart of which buttons are which F keys?

This release is a huge improvement.
Thank you immensely.

Well the right click is what it is, please use it carefully

The problem with the right click is it has to run a script to change to right click. So if you have the CPU 100%, it takes it a minute to register your switch.

It works good with on desktop in filemanager and websites, but Kbounce is a no go because it uses too much CPU.

The keyboard is kvkbd, under the utilities menu
Note every time you press the right click to change, wait until it changes before pressing it again, dont just keep hitting the F5 key, it will hose you...

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	dubwise	2008-01-23 , 02:23
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Originally Posted by penguinbait

The keyboard is kvkbd, under the utilities menu

I think you want the link on the desktop like you had before.
Lot of N800 users out there.

Originally Posted by penguinbait

Note every time you press the right click to change, wait until it changes before pressing it again, dont just keep hitting the F5 key, it will hose you...

Yeah, I've noticed that. The entire keyboard mapping thing is a little shakey.
Seems like there's some part of it that's fragile, and once it's gone, it stays gone.
Right now, for instance, F5 snaps the cursor to the center of the screen,
and my hardware keyboard doesn't do anything.
Log out of KDE and it's dead in maemo, too.
Something fairly low level is going down.
Reboot and it's fine again.

Is there a way to find out what keys are mapped to what,
without scrolling through the menus items one at a time?

Battery status pops up a window that says
Battery Status =
but no numbers.

KOrganizer pops up alerts correctly, thanks.
Lot to learn in that program.
My Palm data came right in, via Apple ical.
I couldn't get it into anything in maemo, period.
That's actually all I'm after in KDE, is a working PIM.
Having a lot of fun, though.
Always wanted an excuse to learn me some Linux.

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	penguinbait	2008-01-23 , 02:50
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Originally Posted by dubwise

I think you want the link on the desktop like you had before.
Lot of N800 users out there.

Log into KDE,
Open kvkbd
from K menu, "Save Session"
Now kvkbd will come up like before

make sure thats the only window open when you save session

Yeah, I've noticed that. The entire keyboard mapping thing is a little shakey.
Seems like there's some part of it that's fragile, and once it's gone, it stays gone.
Right now, for instance, F5 snaps the cursor to the center of the screen,
No it does not? is this on external keyboard? Somethings wrong, F5 is the Home key, it does not move your cursor, it enables right click?
and my hardware keyboard doesn't do anything.
Log out of KDE and it's dead in maemo, too.
Something fairly low level is going down.
Reboot and it's fine again.

Is there a way to find out what keys are mapped to what,
without scrolling through the menus items one at a time?

there is a script calling xmodmap, but its not working so there is NO key remapping right now????

The KDE shortcuts are configured in "Control Center" I outlined all the shortcut changes I made?

Battery status pops up a window that says
Battery Status =
but no numbers.
You have to install python and battery-status application

KOrganizer pops up alerts correctly, thanks.
Lot to learn in that program.
My Palm data came right in, via Apple ical.
I couldn't get it into anything in maemo, period.
That's actually all I'm after in KDE, is a working PIM.
Having a lot of fun, though.
Always wanted an excuse to learn me some Linux.

I will have an update coming shortly, fixing xmodmap so the 810 can (pipe) and (Tab)

for now run
/usr/local/bin/xmodmap /home/user/.xmap

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	dubwise	2008-01-23 , 03:26
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Originally Posted by penguinbait

Somethings wrong, F5 is the Home key, it does not move your cursor, it enables right click?

I don't mean it centers the cursor all the time.
That was just a typical result of it flaking out.
Same with the dead hardware keyboard. No big deal.
There's just some fragile components in this software,
and we're asking it to run in an awfully confined space.

Second SUPv2 went quietly.

My bad on battery-status, had it installed in an earlier cloning.
Works fine. Everything is pretty much working here.

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	penguinbait	2008-01-23 , 17:40
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Originally Posted by dubwise

I don't mean it centers the cursor all the time.
That was just a typical result of it flaking out.
Same with the dead hardware keyboard. No big deal.
There's just some fragile components in this software,
and we're asking it to run in an awfully confined space.

Second SUPv2 went quietly.

My bad on battery-status, had it installed in an earlier cloning.
Works fine. Everything is pretty much working here.

I have one last update and its complete, to fix xmodmap, which will not effect n800 users, and an fix for the audio being turned all the way down on on startup, seems like this only effected 810's???

These are now available using the same download again.

Sorry for the inconvenience!!

tablethacker.com is now updated with latest versions.

I still need some more BETA testers (BOOT FROM SD - FRESH INSTALLS ONLY PLEASE)

Also on a side note, I installed KDE via USB cable on n810, and it loaded in 6.5minutes. Thats way faster than any other way I have seen.

I do not anticipate any more changes to this, I beleive it to be complete.

I need some feedback as to whether or not anyone has any issues??

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	dubwise	2008-01-23 , 19:21
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I just went back to my flash boot,
and there in Extras I see KDE and Qjoypad.
Clicking on KDE there gets me a WSOD.
Any idea how they could have got to the wrong partition?
Shouldn't be any crosstalk between the two installs, should there?

-- Edit, bet I untarred from the wrong one, didn't I? --

Also, turning on virtual memory in one turns it on in both,
but I expect maemo just looks for the swap file.

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mplawner	2008-01-23 , 21:02
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So far the issues that I've found:

Konquerer browser: going to http://www.internettablettalk.com freezes the n800. Pretty consistently, too. First time I've ever had to take the battery out, since nothing else worked.

"Right click" on the n800 is the little Home button. Sweet!

Microb got the updating screen and a blank screen, but didn't seem to come up.

That's about all I've had time to try, so far. Sorry for being so slow to test, but this troublesome activity gets in my way of life: work!

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	penguinbait	2008-01-23 , 21:06
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Originally Posted by mplawner

So far the issues that I've found:

Konquerer browser: going to http://www.internettablettalk.com freezes the n800. Pretty consistently, too. First time I've ever had to take the battery out, since nothing else worked.

"Right click" on the n800 is the little Home button. Sweet!

Microb got the updating screen and a blank screen, but didn't seem to come up.

That's about all I've had time to try, so far. Sorry for being so slow to test, but this troublesome activity gets in my way of life: work!

Do you have swap enabled? ITT will kill Konqueror without swap enabled.

ITT the tablet killer !! Who'da thunk it?

Microb does not run under KDE, the fonts in microb were having issues if KDE was installed, this is what was fixed..

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mplawner	2008-01-24 , 06:46
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Originally Posted by penguinbait

Do you have swap enabled? ITT will kill Konqueror without swap enabled.

ITT the tablet killer !! Who'da thunk it?

Microb does not run under KDE, the fonts in microb were having issues if KDE was installed, this is what was fixed..

Nope. I didn't have swap enabled. I missed the recommendation to do that (guess I should have searched... where are the Forum Police?!). I'll search before I dare ask how much swap would be recommended... and if it is recommended on mmc1 or mmc2.

On a separate issue: I didn't see the usb host mode button actually toggle the mode. It seemed to enable it, but clicking on it a second time didn't appear to disable it.

I've posted such a script here (http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=303) that does this.

Last suggestion on this post: Maybe a text file on the desktop with the mappings of buttons and their functionality would be nice. Including some change log or something would be handy, too. I ask this because I feel an obligation as a "beta tester" to focus on the things you've changed... though I'm not really sure what specifically I should be providing feedback upon.

Bottom line: I'm really enjoying this KDE v2! I rely heavily on vnc and X forwarding. Krdp is nice (although I haven't used it in the last two days much), but the X forwarding works beautifully... I really love having full Firefox running on my N800!

(Before anyone who didn't understand what I meant by that gets all orgasmic... that's ssh -X into a Linux computer and starting up Firefox. Technically, the Firefox (or any other application) is running on the Linux computer, while the GUI X client portion only is running on your N800. You can do this under the Hildon interface, but the lack of (different implementation of?) windows decorations makes, eh... not so pretty.)

Last edited by mplawner; 2008-01-24 at 06:46. Reason: AC about spelling...