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2006-05-03 , 10:34
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#191
The international time data was almost certainly not dropped intentionally, almost certainly. Unless everyone in Europe is now in Helsinki ;-)
 
Element is offline Element
2006-05-03 , 15:12
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#192
Originally Posted by aflegg
Unless everyone in Europe is now in Helsinki ;-)
YES! It proved by Clock settings
 
Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2006-05-03 , 18:16
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#193
Originally Posted by Jejoma
If they've saved ROM space by dropping the international time data it would seem more than likely they would save further space by dropping the international Mobile Phone Wizard / Service Provider data as Milhouse suggested. Indeed, there's probably some sort of link between the two that resulted in the time data being dropped by mistake.
Global Timezone data is critical when you consider there is a world map app, so I don't think the Timezone data was dropped intentionaly - I'm not really sure what's going on with the Mobile Phone Wizard and only suggested data had been dropped as US mobile phone users seem to be experiencing issues. I think the link is that it's a QA c*ckup!
 
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2006-05-03 , 19:56
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#194
Actually the point I was getting at was that Europeans were probably going to be a lot more accepting and react more mildly to bugs than North American customers. *whistles innocently*
 
Banner is offline Banner
2006-05-04 , 02:59
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#195
Originally Posted by Saanvik
You know, Banner, I don't want to gang up on you, but I really think you're out of line here. It seems to me like you didn't do any research on the 770 before buying one.

It's not a phone.
Well sue me for mispeaking. BTW, nokia's website lists it as a phone, so does their tech support. And I did my research.

Originally Posted by Saanvik
Can you point out a place in Nokia's marketing where they say the 770 will read MS documents? Did the update make the email app worse?
IMO, you should have been able to figure out it was the device for you either before you bought it or within a few hours of buying it. If it wasn't, you should have returned it then.
Their email app is buggy. I didn't try it in the new one, because I CAN'T USE THE NEW FLASH! Got it? Won't set up with the phone, so I can't use it. I didn't expect the original email app to bre so buggy, email is like a simple task to implement. I also expected them to be able to view MS word documents, seeing as how it is the most popular document format and everyone else supports it.

Originally Posted by Saanvik
There appears to be one bug, that relating to time zones, and it has an easy fix. Since you've been in the software field for a while, I'm assuming you can follow the simple instructions to fix the problem. If you don't want to do that, wait for Nokia to come out with a fix, it shouldn't be long. Either way, your response is way over the top.
Umm, no it doesn't have an easy fix. Apparently you have to root your Nokia, something I have no desire to do. Besides, I expect something I pay that much money for to be fixed by the VENDOR, not ME. IT's called service. We sort of demand that here in the US. Apparently you don't. And I already said, there isn't one bug, there are two that I know if so far.

Originally Posted by Saanvik
Sounds to me like you should be upset with yourself for not checking to make sure the device met your needs before buying it, and now you'd rather blame Nokia than take the responsibility yourself.

I don't think the 770 is perfect. Far from it. But I knew what I was getting when I bought it. You should have, too. If you didn't, you have no one to blame but yourself.
I expected the email feature to work, but it has a terrible problem of hiding all your mail from you. And that's not even getting into the two new bugs (phone and time) that I discovered within ten minutes of flashing. If I find 2 that quickly, I'm sure there are dozens more to be found as well. I never thought it was perfect either. But I did expect it to do the things it was supposed to do well. And I didn't expect the update to break things. Being unhappy with that isnt' unrealistic.
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Banner is offline Banner
2006-05-04 , 03:05
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#196
Originally Posted by gultig
Wishful thinking, eh?

I'm sorry, which fact that I presented was wrong?
That they're turning out a quality product.
 
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2006-05-04 , 04:04
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#197
Originally Posted by Banner
That they're turning out a quality product.
I have an impression that you don't feel that the Nokia 770 is a quality product. So why hang around here?
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mike9285 is offline mike9285
2006-05-04 , 06:14
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#198
So much hostility in this thread...

P.S. My Nokia 770 is working great with no problems. Though some may find a few bugs, my 770 is a quality product. :-)
 
Stickarm is offline Stickarm
2006-05-04 , 07:40
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#199
Originally Posted by Banner
We sort of demand that here in the US.
Something seems wrong here... Let's see if we can correct this statement:
Originally Posted by Antibanner
I sort of demand that.
Ah, much better.
Originally Posted by mike9285
My Nokia 770 is working great with no problems.
That's what I find, too -- my 770 is meeting my needs and expectations very well. I've encountered some problems and there are things that I think could work better, but I'm not surprised by the performance of this device. Indeed, I'm very pleased with how it fills particular functions in my day-to-day life.
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2006-05-04 , 07:56
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#200
I can fully understand Banner's position, in particular it's well known that the Email program (osso-email) is a joke and not worth the bytes worth shipping.

Fortunately, even Nokia recognise this and there are other open source replacements in the works, such as:

HTH,

Andrew
 
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