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2013-04-16
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#902
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Originally Posted by Dave999
They never said Nov/Dec, some speculation has put it around then, but they've only ever said 2H of 2013*.
But why did they say they will release late this year? They announce it early May and release it in Nov dec... Something is not right with the information we have. Ħuʍop puɐ dn sı plɹoM ǝɥ┴ Fishy...
They set a deadline for around Dec, but they didn't say it will arrive for purchase then, there was always a possibility it could be sooner.
*I'm referring to their most recent revision of (rough) availability time-line ofc
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2013-04-16
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#903
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Originally Posted by Hacker
Before anyone gets their imagination flying too high, according to the finnish article it's software modifications not hardware modifications. Like for example, a cool looking background saying "Hacker is the shizznit!".
Duuude, it appears that there are different device modifications or looks that will be available to early supporters, depending on how much they pre-pay. Perhaps that and the need to raise more money factor into the delay.
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2013-04-16
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The company will use the pre-order funding to manufacture the devices.
They'll be using a Finnish Kickstarter-like funding platform that was not specified.
"Kickstarter-like" site, FFS just use the most popular social funding network(s) on the net.
Not some esoteric Finnish-based one just because it's Finnish... >.>
Originally Posted by ajalkane
Yup...
Before anyone gets their imagination flying too high, according to the finnish article it's software modifications not hardware modifications. Like for example, a cool looking background saying "Hacker is the shizznit!".
Finally, Jolla promises all pre-orders something special: "We want to offer people pre-ordering something unique, eg. user interface related."
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2013-04-16
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2013-04-16
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#906
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I'd say this whole preorder funding is rather unusual since the big chunk of that money won't go to Jolla but would be swallowed by the taxes. That's what happens with Kickstarter campaigns if anyone isn't familiar - people lose almost half of the funds to the government.
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2013-04-16
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#907
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Originally Posted by shmerl
Where do taxes come into the picture? I though money goes directly to the company
I'd say this whole preorder funding is rather unusual since the big chunk of that money won't go to Jolla but would be swallowed by the taxes. That's what happens with Kickstarter campaigns if anyone isn't familiar - people lose almost half of the funds to the government.
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2013-04-16
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Don't they have that huge chunk of financial backing (something like 600mill IIRC)?
Or was that only to be released in very small chunks, once(if) certain millstones are met, over several years etc?
Or was that only to be released in very small chunks, once(if) certain millstones are met, over several years etc?
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2013-04-16
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#909
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Originally Posted by mariusmssj
Company selling products has to pay taxes. Preorders are taxed as well (if not even worse), since they are advance sales. With Kickstarter it's more weird, since most people see it as a funding (investment) mechanism, however for the government it's still advance sales mechanism, and they tax it like crazy. That's the reality - projects lose a huge part of such funding money. That's why most attempt to find investors, rather than using crowdfunding, since in such case taxation doesn't apply in the same crazy manner.
Where do taxes come into the picture? I though money goes directly to the company
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2013-04-16
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I'm not very clued-up in that area, but assuming you're absolutely right...
I hope this crowd-sourced funding tack is being leveraged mainly for marketing purposes, & is not a indicator that they're having troubles with funding/investors.
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I hope this crowd-sourced funding tack is being leveraged mainly for marketing purposes, & is not a indicator that they're having troubles with funding/investors.
Last edited by jalyst; 2013-04-16 at 18:34.
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