To simplify my reply (which was moderated): Any time a group of people is working on something together, all it takes is one bad actor to cause problems.

Just because you see one name again and again doesn't mean they're the only person, or the one in charge.

Untill now, I kept out of the political/community threads, because I'm a relative new member and I always felt like things are in good hands.
Both has changed now.

Wrong, bylaws were created by SD69, Woody just kept on reminding us that review, feedback and final acceptance are important.
No coup, no such guys, no scapegoat.

Exactly. What was the complaint again?

It's not, it is important and actually happening here thanks to the confident guys you're blaming. Think about it.

Your not summarizing the thread, you're misinterpreting it...

@HittheB: Thanks for reopening, deleting szopin's post is definetely the better choice.
This discussion is eminent, though OT with this threat title.
Please keep on putting the finger where it hurts the most, hopefully people (soon to be) in charge learn something.

You can bet on that! My first lesson: The show isn't over before the fat lady sung - IOW when etablishing a ruleset don't stop halfway, push through until the static end of the story. Appointment of HiFo BoD should never had happened without official public parallel appointment of HFC, and both entities shouldn't have been allowed to leave for weekend before the election rules been provided by HFC.

Oh, and thanks for your comment, much appreciated, also from "newcommers".

cheers
jOERG

To the topic of ByLaws: The ByLaws were a community effort. I facilitated that effort, and did the manual work of piecing in things that were not in the original draft. Things like even having elections, instead of self-appointment, and having a Council, just to name two examples.

For what it's worth, Rob was acting as legal council at the time. He did have input a couple times. In particular the last version has at least one change he noted was legally required after he reviewed it.

As for the "broken rule" issue, can you clarify what rule you believe has been broken?

In the by-laws thread we were srsly considering not bothering w/a council at one point, & just having the one body (some okay-ish arguments were put forward), I'm so glad now we didn't go that way.

did this thread close and reopened the again? How did that happen?

Pure magic

I need that power!

It's not magic, it was a MIRACLE!

It was closed, cleaned up a hair, and brought back to a civil (if still somewhat off-topic) level by the moderator staff. Which was probably for the best, when re-examined after a good nights rest.

It's easy to get angry/defensive when one perceives the words or acts of others as "attacks". I think what's desperately needed here (on all "sides") is a refocus on what the community needs and wants. Since in the end, that's what really matters.