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2008-01-26
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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Originally Posted by sungrove
... or they're blowing pretty coloured smoke. I mean, if had no intention of ever releasing a PIM but didn't want the user base to know, that's exactly what I would say: "We're going slowly to make sure we're doing it right. Just be patient, it'll come".
Victor mentions PIM in Thoughtfixes interview:
From Victor:
"People are asking for PIM synchronization but if we release that now and the next OS breaks that, users are out of luck. We have to think about how this will work on existing tablets and in the long term. The Video Converter got some bad feedback for being Windows only. We had to match the software to the needs of the market. For PIM/PDA synchronization, we need to spend time organizing the best, longest lasting, and most flexible way to release it and then maintain it as the product moves forward."
I think this shows that Nokia is mindfull of PIM, but trying to be careful about how it is implemented.
Neil
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
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2008-01-26
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@ St. Petersburg, FL
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Karel, man, the cynicism these days is incredible. Maybe it's time to go talk a walk and breath the fresh-air for a little while.
... or they're blowing pretty coloured smoke. I mean, if had no intention of ever releasing a PIM but didn't want the user base to know, that's exactly what I would say: "We're going slowly to make sure we're doing it right. Just be patient, it'll come".
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2008-01-26
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@ Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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I've got one.
Despite doing a good job convincing the consumer base that end-of-life is acceptable on a $400+ dollar gadget after merely 12 months, what are your concrete plans for Stage 5 and why should I keep buying tablets once a year if we're not there yet?
To those of you with a 770, N800, and N810 sitting in front of you right now, be honest. Don'tcha feel a *little* suckered?
Despite doing a good job convincing the consumer base that end-of-life is acceptable on a $400+ dollar gadget after merely 12 months, what are your concrete plans for Stage 5 and why should I keep buying tablets once a year if we're not there yet?
To those of you with a 770, N800, and N810 sitting in front of you right now, be honest. Don'tcha feel a *little* suckered?
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2008-01-26
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
... or they're blowing pretty coloured smoke. I mean, if had no intention of ever releasing a PIM but didn't want the user base to know, that's exactly what I would say: "We're going slowly to make sure we're doing it right. Just be patient, it'll come".
I see your point. Well said. It does seem like a well functioning PIM on the Nokia would be well worth it to Nokia. I don't get it either.
On the other hand, I'm starting to have some pretty good success with the Garnet VM , Palm datebk5, Palm Desktop and syncronizing those. True, that's a bit clunky so far though and the screen size is small on the N800 compared to what it could be.
Neil
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2008-01-26
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I'd respond, but I really don't know what to. You have nothing to say about my argument, only about me.
Karel, man, the cynicism these days is incredible. Maybe it's time to go talk a walk and breath the fresh-air for a little while.
And as a general rule I don't dispute people's opinions of me. It's pretty pointless.
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
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2008-01-26
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Originally Posted by Hedgecore
I can honestly say I don't feel at all 'suckered'. To the contrary, I am blown away by all the things I can now do with my n800. But I didn't expect a PIM devise when I purchased last January. I won't bore you with my list of things I like on my Nokia. You know the list. But I don't know how current purchasers of an N800 can feel cheated at the prices they are going for now.
I've got one.
To those of you with a 770, N800, and N810 sitting in front of you right now, be honest. Don'tcha feel a *little* suckered?
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2008-01-26
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Originally Posted by Hedgecore
Well, I can't speak to the N810, but as the owner of 2 perfectly awesome 770s and an n800, I can honestly say no.
To those of you with a 770, N800, and N810 sitting in front of you right now, be honest. Don'tcha feel a *little* suckered?
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2008-01-26
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Eh, there wasn't much of an argument in your post to respond to.
I'd respond, but I really don't know what to. You have nothing to say about my argument, only about me.
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2008-01-26
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@ Devon, UK
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Well as I'm sat here with one of each in front of me I actually feel quite privileged; but who wouldn't :-)
Well, I can't speak to the N810, but as the owner of 2 perfectly awesome 770s and an n800, I can honestly say no.
Now I think I'll sit and watch TV and drink a beer, oh and I'll take the N800 with me and see if I can get TrueCrypt running during he ads - now I've reflashed the kernel.
From Victor:
"People are asking for PIM synchronization but if we release that now and the next OS breaks that, users are out of luck. We have to think about how this will work on existing tablets and in the long term. The Video Converter got some bad feedback for being Windows only. We had to match the software to the needs of the market. For PIM/PDA synchronization, we need to spend time organizing the best, longest lasting, and most flexible way to release it and then maintain it as the product moves forward."
I think this shows that Nokia is mindfull of PIM, but trying to be careful about how it is implemented.
Neil