Originally Posted by kingstu

There are so many android apps out there that it is not feasible to expect all the developers to write them for Sailfish. At least with being able to sideload then the apps that might be useful will still be available. I am thinking of banking apps and more local apps where sometimes just being able to use it even if it isn't the best is still useful. Some people may never need to use any android apps. Some people will never need to use developer mode. But it's nice to have that option should one desire it.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing

So what? Send a message to the lazy coders at those companys who does not provide support. Or realize facts that Sailfish small platform means less apps == not for those who want 100% support of all apps.

Btw. edited my post to make my point a bit more clear.

Originally Posted by aironeous

So now we are arguing about whether or not having android apps is good for sailfish.
Well I can tell you that there are quite a few apps I need that are not on my N9, but they are on android.

Bankofamerica app would be great because right now it takes me more than 5 minutes to log on and find my balance using firefox.
Firefox is my only option because it has flash and many of the interactive elements of websites use flash and I can't sit there and run around making a list of all the websites that do and don't use flash I just need it to work. If someone is asking me if I can afford something I would very very much want to have a BofA app so I can answer in less than 2 minutes not almost 10 minutes like it is now using FF on my N9.

Those "turn your car into a cab" apps. Now that my car is broke I may need a quick way to find a ride.
Gigwalk
Train and bus scheduling apps

Firefox on N9 is super slow, almost everything that can replace having to go to the website and use firefox is a good app for me.
I imagine a sailfish phone will be similar. Unless they can get flash plus qt browser together on the sailfish phone without lots of funny bugs then I will be wanting to install the android browser dolphin and flash for android.

I'm so tired of people saying we don't need flash and then 90+% of websites I go to on my phone because I NEED TO use flash.
Logging into my previous employment agency website to see my last paycheck BECAUSE I HAVE TO so I can fill out some form, ordering a pizza, CNN, HULU, youtube, every other video and animation, everything uses flash so you can't tell me "no I can't have it" because that means I won't buy the sailfish phone.

I'm not a developer, I don't care if you think flash is sh**ty, I need stuff to work. Someone asks me a question, I need some info from a previous employer, I need to look something up, I don't have 10 minutes and the patience for the N9 that takes 6 seconds to rotate respond and minutes to load a page on 3 bars of 2.5g on FF.

I need to know quickly is Ironman playing tonight down the street, is this girls favorite coffee drink at the starbucks around the corner, can I apply for a job at this companies website using my phone, does this shop have the type of wood I need, can I quickly log on to my vons account and load the shopping specials and coupons before I go into the store because I just realized I forgot to, I DON'T HAVE 3 MINUTES TO WAIT FOR EACH PAGE TO LOAD I CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE LIKE THAT WHO CAN LIVE LIKE THAT?

Sailfish with no flash=no buy for me
The only chance you have is if there are lots of android apps that I know can take the place of the website or I can see that I can install flash for android and something like dolphin browser.

The only times I use the N9 stock browser is for websites like this, forums where I know for sure don't need flash but even then someone posts a link to a video that I want to see that is in flash I have to copy and paste into firefox, super annoying.

My phone is supposed to be a tool that works. Not something that is so low performance that it constantly defies my expecatations of when it will load a page and then springs the surprise on me of putting something else right under my finger the millisecond before it hits the screen because my patience has ran out sending me off to somewhere else adding even more time to what I was trying to do making me want to crush my N9 in a vice.

The more apps available for me on this sailfish phone the better. If there is no flash natively then I will have to be able to load lots of android apps that replace the websites that I HAVE TO visit.
If the sailfish phone has a qt browser with flash then I am less concerned about the android apps but still there are lots of consumption based apps on android like netflix that I know I will want to have.

Originally Posted by aironeous

So now we are arguing about whether or not having android apps is good for sailfish.