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#1321
You should change your username to miketrolling
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#1322
I don't see how a new small startup company like Jolla should keep alive abondoned devices from a very big company. This legacy support would break them their neck and they would be as slow as Nokia was.

This agile small company can do it different than Nokia ever could. This is what I believe in and so far they don't have disappointed me. After all, it's development is alot more open than Nokias maemo/meego. Look at MER and NEMO, thats totally open. I can live with some parts being closed while being developed like Android. I'm also OK with key parts or 3rd party stuff staying closed. As long as this closed parts have APIs or plugins into which the community can connect.

They can be the Nokia we always wanted. They can be unlike.
 
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#1323
Actually just realised Jolla has NOT stated they will announce a phone on monday.

What if they only will release a new beta of JollaSDK?

TMO will be overflowed with whining and JollaLoveDay will be JollaHateDay
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Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
You should change your username to miketrolling
I don't know. He trolls only very rarely. Usually he's just angry. I vote changing username to angrymike.

Hey mike. How angry are you going to be if Finland wins tonight against Sweden? On a scale of Jobs-is-an-******* to Elop-the-platform-burner?

Can't help but love mike's rants.
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Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
Don't get all this noise. Once upon a time there were huge threads on waiting Maemo5 and then harmattan devices. Everyone loved it, everyone wanted it. I still use harmattan as my everyday phone and pretty happy, but on other side it's dead and not supported. In maemo5 we have some support, but only because of community.
What i hate the most is all those promises, but i do remember, how there were huge threads waiting for bug fixes and updates, speculations on what would be new features and if bugs would be fixed(i lloved those "wontfix" statuses as well). How was the lack of communication and knowing what's gonna happen to your device and what support it would have. Most internet was filled with "awesome device", "true linux", "amazing", "love it" and no actual info. I want to belive that Jolla can do something special and interesting, but on other hand, they don't tell you any actual info, they just make general promises. And as i see the future may be not different from harmattan.
I don't see opensource, community involved project to have no actual communication except some pictures and hashtags on twitter with speculations, it's not how it works. Opensource is where it is now only because of communication and collaboration, the information that everyone can get and involvement of community. Here i only see Idols you make and they don't deliver you anything except advertizing(they just want your money after all). So sorry, but you fool me once shame on you, you fool me twice — shame on me. I don't buy it, instead of talking deliver something.
Maemo community now struggles to keep alive just to keep alive, as we have no support of Nokia anymore, mer, nemo came from here, a lot of people will buy(contribute with money) from this community, and still i don't see how Jolla tries to keep this community alive except some promises of "cool" phone.
It's sad
nothing personal, here, just...
Jolla IS NOKIA
not the *****ic NOKIA from post hara-kiri dead platform memo (Oct 2010) but a new NOKIA, the NOKIA that Flop decided to get ride of to eliminate as much internal competition to the m$ crap as possible.
and he failed. Jolla is alive & kicking.
and it is probably only a matter of time 'til Flop gets quicked out of NOKIA (he wasn't even presenting the L925...) and NOKIA buys up Jolla.

about the "no support to this community by Jolla"...
end of last year there were contacts between Council (Board?) and Jolla, but apparently the contact got sabotaged; if memory serves well by some Council / Board members.

see ivgalvez's post

as the saying goes... Totgesagte leben länger
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Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
I don't see opensource, community involved project to have no actual communication except some pictures and hashtags on twitter with speculations, it's not how it works. Opensource is where it is now only because of communication and collaboration, the information that everyone can get and involvement of community.
Wait, what?
You should be joining #nemomobile, #mer, and #jollamobile more often
You have a lot of jollaians there, you can contribute to the middleware and core of SailfishOS and getting support from Jollaians in live chat...what else do you want?
They're definitely looking for people to contribute to the project, and they're definitely supporting people who do so.
And I'm seeing a great community growing around Jolla, a community who believes in the same ideals, and contribute to the projects to keep SailfishOS growing.
If you want to contribute, there are so many things you can contribute to.

Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
Here i only see Idols you make and they don't deliver you anything except advertizing(they just want your money after all). So sorry, but you fool me once shame on you, you fool me twice — shame on me. I don't buy it, instead of talking deliver something.
Maemo community now struggles to keep alive just to keep alive, as we have no support of Nokia anymore, mer, nemo came from here, a lot of people will buy(contribute with money) from this community, and still i don't see how Jolla tries to keep this community alive
Why don't you discuss this with people from Jolla?
Because with Jolla you CAN discuss and you know how to just make the step, and clear all your doubts
 
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Originally Posted by faenil View Post
Wait, what?
You should be joining #nemomobile, #mer, and #jollamobile more often
You have a lot of jollaians there, you can contribute to the middleware and core of SailfishOS and getting support from Jollaians in live chat...what else do you want?
They're definitely looking for people to contribute to the project, and they're definitely supporting people who do so.
And I'm seeing a great community growing around Jolla, a community who believes in the same ideals, and contribute to the projects to keep SailfishOS growing.
If you want to contribute, there are so many things you can contribute to.


Why don't you discuss this with people from Jolla?
Because with Jolla you CAN discuss and you know how to just make the step, and clear all your doubts
I agree fully there is so many *****s on this forum they prefer to whine. Its just plain ridicilous when people do think Jolla should be on this broken forum 24h/day. TMO is doomed get over it. This forum is broken paece of crap. I Don't get why people is so fans of this forum its not even working good on mobile for got sake. Its 2013 not 2005.


As stated already they are on freenode IRC channels. But if we should have a community forum we should start FRESH with modern forum etc. And a good spam filter and a way to remove troll OR offtopic posts (like this) from a thread.
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#1328
Love to see we have a new troll thread. I now count it to 5 jolla threads Keep em coming...

Still haven't seen or got any answer about where this event will be held, anyone?
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Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
I don't know. He trolls only very rarely. Usually he's just angry. I vote changing username to angrymike.

Hey mike. How angry are you going to be if Finland wins tonight against Sweden? On a scale of Jobs-is-an-******* to Elop-the-platform-burner?

Can't help but love mike's rants.
TechGeeks don't care about sports and from what I know Finland and possably even sweden don't know anything about sports, except racing on winter roads. Am I right?
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Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
I don't know. He trolls only very rarely. Usually he's just angry. I vote changing username to angrymike.

Hey mike. How angry are you going to be if Finland wins tonight against Sweden? On a scale of Jobs-is-an-******* to Elop-the-platform-burner?

Can't help but love mike's rants.
[Offtopic] I Dont give a **** about sport I am a geek not a sportsman [/Offtopic]
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