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2013-06-27 , 09:22
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and as far as i get till now is i can make a setup or is possible to achieve the said distance 0 now i need to know about the n900s capiblity on such distances
 

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2013-06-27 , 09:48
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Why don't you try it? Hammering a hole in a tin can to stick an antenna through won't cost you anything and is something that even you could manage.
 

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2013-06-27 , 09:49
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I'd imagine it is the worlds easiest test to perform.
Just place your WLAN AP on a visible location, and then start pinging it, walking away. If you reach 300m before ping fails, you need more power or better antenna.
 

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2013-06-27 , 10:23
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@wikiwide my house isint that big its a metere or more from my neibours house but thats only one direction but i enjoy clear pollution free air chripping of birds no honking horns and a spacious surrounding why cant a student have his wifi network?? as its my house i think nothing wrong in placing a anteena. Oh **** i even have a spare dth anteena lying around and what type of interference you taking about?? Theres no wifi miles apart not even 3g mine would be the first on the galaxy Anyway that anteena would be bit hard to be rotatable i think you know it feels great using my network sitting along the lakeside
I have three immediately close neighbours, one neighbour across a small road and another one across a larger road (that's what I mean when mentioning a neighbour 'ten meters away'). The house is small, and yet, I would gladly exchange it for something even smaller, since the current house could be called worn out: cracks in the walls, non-existent insulation, and many other small faults. But I would like a larger backyard. Some place to put sunshade, to grow native plants, to hang birdhouse or two... There are almost no birdhouses around, or I haven't noticed them.
I would like to live inside a hill, like a hobbit. I have already enough mould problems as it is, so it would not be an unexpected downside.
I can walk to a lake about two kilometers away, but there are still too many cars. And two kilometers are hardly coverable with one router, especially when I cannot risk messing around with it - I am not sure whether the hardware belongs to me or to the Internet provider.
Around this place, nearly every house has its own WiFi router - 99% of them are secure, however surprising it may be, given the old news of Google-Street-View-Cars-tapping-into-private-Wi-Fi-because-it-was-non-secure.
So, your interference-free place sounds surreal to me... As in, you are fortunate to live here, and why do you need WiFi anyway?
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I'd imagine it is the worlds easiest test to perform.
Just place your WLAN AP on a visible location, and then start pinging it, walking away. If you reach 300m before ping fails, you need more power or better antenna.
It's easy, yes. As long as you have clear line of sight. It may involve climbing on the roof to install it, depending on environment.
If you reach 300m before ping fails... doesn't it mean there is no need for more power or better antenna? :-/ confused
Best wishes.
 

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2013-06-28 , 01:07
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Originally Posted by nokiabot View Post
and as far as i get till now is i can make a setup or is possible to achieve the said distance 0 now i need to know about the n900s capiblity on such distances
I don't understand a thing... You have a 300 square meters house, but you can't afford 3-4 routers to cover the whole area... Man, a new router is just under 20 dollars here (D-Link like mine) and will cover 40-50 meters without any problems. You can go even for a N router which can cover more but are a little more expensive.

You can also try a single router connected to some Wi-Fi AP's (wireless repeater/switch) and gain the same effect.

P.S. Even if you put the Wi-Fi on top of your house the walls variable is still in talk (so in some rooms the signal will be better in others not so good).

P.S.S. Some routers are better than others @signal strength. Example: I live at the lowest floor in apartment building and me, and the neighbor from the 2nd floor both have Wi-Fi routers. I can see his router, but he can't see mine, why because mine is a 5 year old model with only one antenna and his router is a N router with 3 antennas.

P.S.S.S How I recommend to setup a multi-router network. Install 1st router in the most central spot of your house. Take a laptop/phone with a signal strength monitor and move away. Move away until you have only 2 lines (out of 5) of signal strength left. Stop there and measure the distance you walked. Now the same distance, walk it again but from the sign (where you have 2 signal bars) to which ever direction you want right now. Install 2nd router. Repeat until your whole house is covered.

When configuring the routers, set the admin password to 192.168.0.X where X is the number of your router. The most central should have X=1 and the internet connection, the rest should have whatever administration IP but the same SSID as the 1st.

That's about it, now you have a multi-router home network, with individual router configuration (you can configure each and every router - if you do the admin ip step) for just under 100$, or 200 if you want state of the art routers .
 
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2013-06-28 , 04:39
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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
I'd imagine it is the worlds easiest test to perform.
Just place your WLAN AP on a visible location, and then start pinging it, walking away. If you reach 300m before ping fails, you need more power or better antenna.
It's easy, yes. As long as you have clear line of sight. It may involve climbing on the roof to install it, depending on environment.
If you reach 300m before ping fails... doesn't it mean there is no need for more power or better antenna? :-/ confused
Best wishes.
oh, I made a typo there, of course what I meant to say is "If you do not reach 300m before ping fails, you need more power or better antenna."
 

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2013-06-28 , 05:22
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Grrr, this topic was meant to be about GSM scrambler, right? Now 5 pages of teaching 20 years old guy wwhat square meter is, and so goes on? C'mon... I had to go through 80% of thead (unrelated pages), just to be sure that no single on-topic, useful post slipped in and got drowned, inside all this "setting up your first home wifi" tutorial.
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I suppose, that scrambling (.ie, in our case, generqating strong enough random noise, or maybe some bogus, pisoned replies?) isn't possible, due to how closed GSM modem stuff is - pity, as it would be interesting proof-of-concept. Even with very short range (like, insoide single room).

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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Grrr, this topic was meant to be about GSM scrambler, right? Now 5 pages of teaching 20 years old guy wwhat square meter is, and so goes on? C'mon... I had to go through 80% of thead (unrelated pages), just to be sure that no single on-topic, useful post slipped in and got drowned, inside all this "setting up your first home wifi" tutorial.
Cant you see the irony it went from gsm scrambling to a practical demonstration of how to scramble a thread
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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Grrr, this topic was meant to be about GSM scrambler, right? Now 5 pages of teaching 20 years old guy wwhat square meter is, and so goes on? C'mon... I had to go through 80% of thead (unrelated pages), just to be sure that no single on-topic, useful post slipped in and got drowned, inside all this "setting up your first home wifi" tutorial. --- I suppose, that scrambling (.ie, in our case, generqating strong enough random noise, or maybe some bogus, pisoned replies?) isn't possible, due to how closed GSM modem stuff is - pity, as it would be interesting proof-of-concept. Even with very short range (like, insoide single room). /Estel
grrr estel... Afaik everyone dosent comes preprogrammed people like me still need to learn anyway thanx for all the fish guys i will ask questions again after i actually test. Currently testing something else at least i do have some form of concept after getting your helpful replys
 

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now back to topic. so where were we
 

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