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They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by shmerl
I've got those apps already, on my n900 via easy debian, why would i want to become an unpaid employee of jolla? i only contribute to causes i believe in. no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.
They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.
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2013-07-15
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It's up to you what to use. Jolla does what's really important for Sailfish. And supporting Easy Debian shouldn't be on their priority list.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by shmerl
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner.
They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.
Otherwise, if you mean dev effort; don't get why (probably mostly) end-users should pamper them.
Originally Posted by marbleuser
...my thoughts, albeit for other reasons too.
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i'll wait for about a year after it's launch before i seriously look at it now, rather than collecting tweets about how they've u-turned on stuff they promised. bait and switch. no thanks.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by marbleuser
It's not as "black & white" as you're painting it to be in your last several posts.
no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.
Try reading the page just before you started spewing bile...
Here's a little snapshot of presumptuous assertions you've made before, only to be proven wrong shortly thereafter:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...45#post1287345
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...49#post1353649
It seems you've got somewhat of a problem with "shooting from the hip"...
Originally Posted by don_falcone
Rinse, repeat....
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner. Otherwise, if you mean dev effort; don't get why (probably mostly) end-users should pamper them.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...15#post1358915
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by don_falcone
No, they are non commercial open source project (Mer). That's where support for Wayland is coming from to Sailfish (besides the drivers of course). Therefore any XWayland integration would have to be added to Mer which is open for participation. So to put is shortly - if you need it, add it.
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner
Jolla does contribute to Mer of course. Focusing on those parts which are needed for their product. But as I said, Mer is open for participation. It's not Jolla's commercial field. I guess if Jolla will be convinced that there is a big demand for XWayland, they'll add it to Mer themselves.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by jalyst
better use those resources making nemomobile fully working in that case. Try port qt5 + wayland to harmattan/frema is deadend...
Jolla's focus is to ensure it's as easy as possible to port apps from Freemantle/Harmattan/Elsewhere to Sailfish* via Qt5/HTML5/AlienDalvik, no more & no less.
It's up to Freemantle/Harmattan devs to decide whether or not to support their N9xx users by back-porting...
OR by getting Qt5 working nicely in Freemantle/Harmattan (if doable?) & maintaining their apps (tweaked for each UX) via it for Freemantle/Harmattan/Sailfish.
*even port many non-core/3rd-party apps themselves (they also need to focus on sourcing content, not just apps)
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by marbleuser
since when did android run x11
I've got those apps already, on my n900 via easy debian, why would i want to become an unpaid employee of jolla? i only contribute to causes i believe in. no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
(no x11)=android
since when did android run x11
I guess the equation is clearer now.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by marbleuser
porting apps from Qt4 -> 5 is probadly not a big issue... Second can someone confirm it is not possible run Qt4.8 in wayland?
what a crock. they're basically relying on android apps then. existing qt4/x11 apps won't work.
Third people would complain like CRAZY if they don't move to Qt5 now people complain about they going future route instead of backward....
This is ****ing NUTS!
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