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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by fw190
Actually I often prefer DDG-results over google-results. Google tends to leave keywords out of the search seemingly at random when it can't find "enough" results on all keywords.
Try https://startpage.com/
Duckduck doesn't give the same search results as google and to be ohnest they are not so good for me. Startpage gives the same results as google but without privacy problems.
Either way, DDG has a killer-feature: bang-notations. Put !g in your query, and your search is redirected to google. Put !w in there, and you'll find yourself on the wikipedia page. If you are wary of google, like me, use !sp and you get startpage using google as engine. There are many more.
It's a pity that it takes something like this to show people that all that convenience has a severe downside, and it's troublesome that people give up their privacy and identity so easily to an advertising company like the goog. (and facebook and twitter and ...)
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by fw190
This seems fishy. I know for a fact that google doesn't allow others to use their search engine for free (even google custom search has an API call limit nowadays) and that was one of the reasons scroogle.org was shut down. Also I know that using the google logo if you are not Google is prohibited (http://www.google.com/permissions/using-the-logo.html).
Try https://startpage.com/
Duckduck doesn't give the same search results as google and to be ohnest they are not so good for me. Startpage gives the same results as google but without privacy problems.
So either google knows it and tolerates it (why should it?) or it is run by them to create a false sense of privacy.
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2013-07-15
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this makes no sense, there are IP addresses used by thousands of people like in universities or companies.
the only explanation is a cookie of a google service (can also be YouTube, Picasa or whatever) left in your browser.
check your cookies! and i recommend to delete them quite often...
edit: example to make it clear, maybe your son logged in to YouTube on your laptop and closed the tab without logging out, so when you are searching, for google its him, because his cookie is left in your browser.
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the only explanation is a cookie of a google service (can also be YouTube, Picasa or whatever) left in your browser.
check your cookies! and i recommend to delete them quite often...
edit: example to make it clear, maybe your son logged in to YouTube on your laptop and closed the tab without logging out, so when you are searching, for google its him, because his cookie is left in your browser.
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2013-07-15
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Originally Posted by Leinad
That seems not possible. As I said, 2 different machines, a laptop and a tablet.
this makes no sense, there are IP addresses used by thousands of people like in universities or companies.
the only explanation is a cookie of a google service (can also be YouTube, Picasa or whatever) left in your browser.
check your cookies! and i recommend to delete them quite often...
I never touched the tablet, and still google suggested search results based on my earlier searches with the laptop.
Now if you can imagine how a cookie got to the tablet from my laptop, i'd realy like to know
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2013-07-15
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2013-07-15
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Have to agree with Fuzzillogic - ddg with the bangs is a beast once you learn the ones you commonly use. For instance, I can search lots of sites directly and use it to access all my favourite sites from typing very little. I also like the fact they try and get you an ssl connection wherever possible.
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2013-07-16
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The only question NOT ASKED in this thread is the following:
Were you using Chrome or Firefox in sync mode? I experience this result ONLY after I got my Firefox browser synced all over my computers, the cookies gets synced between the pc's and so you get that result.
And how is that EVEN A SECURITY BREACH?
Also, why the hell are you hiding from, why DDG, I use BING on my phone and Google on my pc's and tablets, and I love it how they analyze all my activity and makes my searches even more relevant.
Are you somehow 12 and hope your mommies don't find out about your little porn secrets?
Also, for a really good hideout, just use TOR Project and you are GOLD!
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Were you using Chrome or Firefox in sync mode? I experience this result ONLY after I got my Firefox browser synced all over my computers, the cookies gets synced between the pc's and so you get that result.
And how is that EVEN A SECURITY BREACH?
Also, why the hell are you hiding from, why DDG, I use BING on my phone and Google on my pc's and tablets, and I love it how they analyze all my activity and makes my searches even more relevant.
Are you somehow 12 and hope your mommies don't find out about your little porn secrets?
Also, for a really good hideout, just use TOR Project and you are GOLD!
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2013-07-16
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Well, that's not, what i meant. Please read my edit in post #14, i explained it in more detail. In short: your son forgot to log out of a google service on your laptop.
That seems not possible. As I said, 2 different machines, a laptop and a tablet.
I never touched the tablet, and still google suggested search results based on my earlier searches with the laptop.
Now if you can imagine how a cookie got to the tablet from my laptop, i'd realy like to know
Please don't get me wrong, i'm no fan of google. I just don't think it's ok, from a thing that only happened once and only happened to you to come to that conclusion without making any further test.
You can do the following 2 tests (with different search-terms of course):
1. if you still have all your cookies, use another IP address ( for example by VPN) and try the same.
If it still happens, it has nothing to do with IP, it's cookie based
2. use a browser with absolutely no cookies and try the same (now with the same IP like your son again).
If it still happens, you seem to be right.
And also the question to all others: can anyone reproduce the behaviour described in the first post?
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2013-07-16
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Originally Posted by qwazix
Agreed. Not only that but Google filter bubbles search results, so if fw190 is getting the same search results with Start Page as with Google as he has claimed, then it would imply that he is still being tracked and therefore no advantage to using Start Page over Google.
This seems fishy. I know for a fact that google doesn't allow others to use their search engine for free (even google custom search has an API call limit nowadays) and that was one of the reasons scroogle.org was shut down. Also I know that using the google logo if you are not Google is prohibited (http://www.google.com/permissions/using-the-logo.html).
So either google knows it and tolerates it (why should it?) or it is run by them to create a false sense of privacy.
im dropping GoOgle like a rock..
maybe this could help https://www.startmail.com/