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2013-08-02
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#172
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
I'm very sorry if you'd need to wait for that confirmation. I just read the original interview and translated the sentence I quoted by myself, so I didn't need google to bake anything about it
I want that confirmed from jolla! Not from some halfbaked google translation! Because there are other stuff that also he said that people here now has mistraslated or has not read correct.
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2013-08-03
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#173
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Originally Posted by minimos
Yeah, I think you're referring to this interview:
Well, as was already reported here, CTO Mosconi said in a recent interview to Jolla Italia, talking about TOH that "In fact it will allow hardware upgrade without a need to purchase a new device."
Considering that Jolla has been quite vague about most of the specs, that's quite a bold statement, so I don't think TOH will be only good to make funky covers, but agree with what you say that they will just provide the capability and wait for 3rd parties to develop something with it.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...68#post1362668
I commented on it in that thread...
I was surprised to see them hint at real hw augmentation once again.
They hadn't talked about it in prior interviews for ages.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...70#post1364470
I want that confirmed from jolla! Not from some halfbaked google translation!
Because there are other stuff that also he said that people here now has mistraslated or has not read correct.
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2013-08-03
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#174
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From available info (translated and otherwise), my guess is the TOH will be:
1. at launch will be nothing more than fancy rainbow coloured covers.
2. able to be expanded in many ways later on (depending on 3rd parties as well as "maybe" Jolla themselves)
3. confusing everybody and causing Internet arguments until launch date
Now, my thoughts above IMO are the most logical, cost effective, and probable from the info that we've seen so far. Unfortunately, the bit about 3rd party TOH is a worry for me; it's highly unlikely that any 3rd party will produce anything with a reasonable economy of scale because... well... I don't think Jolla is going to be shipping 50M Jolla devices per year. So, if there are 3rd party TOH, they'll most probably be at a premium (or be less widely available than Jolla was when pre-order opened). Which leaves TOH from Jolla themselves... but I just woke up and my brain stopped working at this point, so I have no thoughts on that.
1. at launch will be nothing more than fancy rainbow coloured covers.
2. able to be expanded in many ways later on (depending on 3rd parties as well as "maybe" Jolla themselves)
3. confusing everybody and causing Internet arguments until launch date
Now, my thoughts above IMO are the most logical, cost effective, and probable from the info that we've seen so far. Unfortunately, the bit about 3rd party TOH is a worry for me; it's highly unlikely that any 3rd party will produce anything with a reasonable economy of scale because... well... I don't think Jolla is going to be shipping 50M Jolla devices per year. So, if there are 3rd party TOH, they'll most probably be at a premium (or be less widely available than Jolla was when pre-order opened). Which leaves TOH from Jolla themselves... but I just woke up and my brain stopped working at this point, so I have no thoughts on that.
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2013-08-05
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#175
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After reading this
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/561463/f87b1f2fbb11c442/
and especially "The covers have both data and power connections, so they could serve other purposes as well. Additional battery power or a hardware keyboard are two that were mentioned. The protocols and pinout information will be available, so the hope is that other companies come up with their own innovative ideas. "
I then had another look on the Akademy/Vesa-Matti video and from 10:45 talks about intelligent covers. The example of having party profiles linked to the back cover are funny considering the range of possibilites.
http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/kde-a...ilfish_OS.webm
I dont think anyone has mentioned noticing this bit of info.
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/561463/f87b1f2fbb11c442/
and especially "The covers have both data and power connections, so they could serve other purposes as well. Additional battery power or a hardware keyboard are two that were mentioned. The protocols and pinout information will be available, so the hope is that other companies come up with their own innovative ideas. "
I then had another look on the Akademy/Vesa-Matti video and from 10:45 talks about intelligent covers. The example of having party profiles linked to the back cover are funny considering the range of possibilites.
http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/kde-a...ilfish_OS.webm
I dont think anyone has mentioned noticing this bit of info.
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2013-08-05
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#176
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Originally Posted by jiipee
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...70#post1364470
After reading this
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/561463/f87b1f2fbb11c442/
and especially "The covers have both data and power connections, so they could serve other purposes as well. Additional battery power or a hardware keyboard are two that were mentioned. The protocols and pinout information will be available, so the hope is that other companies come up with their own innovative ideas. "
I then had another look on the Akademy/Vesa-Matti video and from 10:45 talks about intelligent covers. The example of having party profiles linked to the back cover are funny considering the range of possibilites.
http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/kde-a...ilfish_OS.webm
I dont think anyone has mentioned noticing this bit of info.
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2013-08-08
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#177
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Originally Posted by jiipee
you dont need a USB connector and similar to do that. Still I want fully confirm what kind of connector if exists.
I then had another look on the Akademy/Vesa-Matti video and from 10:45 talks about intelligent covers. The example of having party profiles linked to the back cover are funny considering the range of possibilites.
http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/kde-a...ilfish_OS.webm
I dont think anyone has mentioned noticing this bit of info.
Second time I see the video and just noticed a lot more intresting thing he said. "We want to make Qt5+Wayland fast as hell on ARM platforms" thats good sounds to me that SoC is not crappy Intel then
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Last edited by mikecomputing; 2013-08-08 at 21:54.
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2013-08-09
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#179
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Originally Posted by Morpog
I really hope so. And Intel should me more supportive of Wayland drivers.
You will see, next Intel SoC will wipe the floor with ARM.
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2013-08-09
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#180
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wonder if someone could manage to do a small and stylish TOH wallet, with space for a few cards and just the odd paper bill or coin. it doesn't have to be *just* a wallet, could be a combined wallet and battery/keyboard/whatnot. don't mind the extra bulk if it means i can let go of my mini wallet.
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