Originally Posted by Artyom

They are letting me do it for 4 years now still not so much has changed.
Who is dreaming? Me or you? Think again.

Originally Posted by Artyom

you probably didn't. just bought a crappy 5800 and whine about how symbian is so bad and so ugly and how it should be replaced. on the other hand i've been using symbian handsets since the 7650 days.
so all the numbers are lying is this what you're trying to tell here? nokia was a huge company back in 2010, you came in and simply destroyed the company for the sake of microsoft and windows phone mr. elop.
i don't follow tomi ahonen, in fact i already knew back in 2011 that symbian was a very viable choice as a mid range smartphone os. it could crush android at that area. nokia 603 was a great example for that. but instead of making capable symbian devices mr elop chose to make uncapable dumbphone devices. and now we are seeing the results.

if you are an extreme optimist yeah being a third player with ~3% is a good thing.


The biggest mistake that nokia did. Buying symbian. now people like you come here and badger about how other companies adopted android and how they benefitted.
If tizen successes i will remind you those words.


Yes they can compete. They showed it by dominating the phone world for years. With symbian. If you can't see the fact go jump off a bridge. Some guy stealing their technology and making a touchscreen device will not change that fact.
That's how the "silicon valley" hate symbian. They envy it. They couldn't eliminate it so they sent someone from the inside to do the job. Which cost them at least a couple of billions.

MeeGo was unlucky. Mr elop announced lumai 800 3 months after N9. Bu it still sold more than lumai 800 and 900 combined. Such a shame that you rigged the race and didn't let the clear winner win mr. elop.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman

I vote switchman to be the new CEO of NOKIA and to resurrect the all mighty SYMBIAN!!!

Originally Posted by juiceme

If you had studied the actual documented chain of events (which has also been translated in english for your benefit) you would understand that this was largely a management problem, not problem with SW engineering or competence.

Nokia did what they had to do to in order to try to turn a large ship in that situation, but you have to agree that the execution of turning was not done very elegantly.
(or else the current march order of mobile phone companies would be something else )

Originally Posted by Artyom

Lord of the lumais,
No one is after resurrecting the all mighty symbian though it is a mighty os i agree. But the next step after symbian was definitely a linux mobile os. Not a crippled windows metro ui.
Also they delivered meego harmattan n9 in merely a year. The time between nokia-intel settlement and the deal break. That's pretty fast. Apple delivered the iphone in three years.

Also the the origin, the first version of symbian^3 is s60v3 which was announced back in 2005. Which is almost a completely different os from the versions 6.x 7.x and 8.x. the iphone aka project purple was announced at 2004.

Originally Posted by Artyom

Lameiaman,
Learn to answer all statements first then fix that link. Then learn not to e a broken record.