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2013-10-14
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#91
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Don't be foolish. If they sell 100k, they will be happy
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2013-10-14
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#92
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
WP8 is much better than anything Nokia produced
That' because WP8 is a stinking turd.
They don't have the stinking turd issue either.
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2013-10-14
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#93
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Microsoft has this image problem;
People are fed up in using windows, but it is so ubiquous it is difficult to have an alternative for your computer OS.
Macs are seen as good alternative but perceived to be pricey, even as not always true.
Linux is seen as geeky and difficult, even as not always true.
But phones are not PC's, and there are alternatives.
And when there are alternatives, why would you want windows on your phone??
Of course advertising with multimillion dollar budgets helps a bit, people are always susceptible to advertising but that can only go so far.
Now that Lumia brand is no longer Nokia but fully Microsoft I expect WP sales which were always almost fully Nokia sales to dwindle pretty low...
People are fed up in using windows, but it is so ubiquous it is difficult to have an alternative for your computer OS.
Macs are seen as good alternative but perceived to be pricey, even as not always true.
Linux is seen as geeky and difficult, even as not always true.
But phones are not PC's, and there are alternatives.
And when there are alternatives, why would you want windows on your phone??
Of course advertising with multimillion dollar budgets helps a bit, people are always susceptible to advertising but that can only go so far.
Now that Lumia brand is no longer Nokia but fully Microsoft I expect WP sales which were always almost fully Nokia sales to dwindle pretty low...
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2013-10-14
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#94
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People always like alternatives. But they like viable alternatives, not the ones that will handicap their current user experience.
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2013-10-14
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
I noticed a bit of doublespeak noticed here. Microsoft has yet to gather popular support from the software vendors - so that's a handicapped experience if you transfer over to that platform expecting, for instance, Instragram (official).
People always like alternatives. But they like viable alternatives, not the ones that will handicap their current user experience.
There's others. But I know your response. Jolla is in the same boat. No ****. But it seems as if you are saying that WP8 has more to offer. It truly doesn't.
Folks do love alternatives. So why not consider Jolla an alternative for folks that don't view iOS and Android and WP as you do.
Once you drop your egocentric tendencies and look at it via their stances, you might find that a lot of folks want a device that works how they want it to work - and Jolla might be just that.
Stranger things have happened.
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2013-10-14
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
You're right there, It'll be great when a viable alternative to Android hits the market.
People always like alternatives. But they like viable alternatives, not the ones that will handicap their current user experience.
The mediocrity of iOS and WP8 has resulted in Android taking 80% of the smartphone market despite only being acceptable not exceptional.
Sailfish OS and Ubuntu Touch are badly needed to end the stagnation we're currently experiencing.
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2013-10-14
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Absolutely. Alternatives are great. Jolla all the way!
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2013-10-14
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I noticed a bit of doublespeak noticed here. Microsoft has yet to gather popular support from the software vendors - so that's a handicapped experience if you transfer over to that platform expecting, for instance, Instragram (official).
There's others. But I know your response. Jolla is in the same boat. No ****. But it seems as if you are saying that WP8 has more to offer. It truly doesn't.
Folks do love alternatives. So why not consider Jolla an alternative for folks that don't view iOS and Android and WP as you do.
Once you drop your egocentric tendencies and look at it via their stances, you might find that a lot of folks want a device that works how they want it to work - and Jolla might be just that.
Stranger things have happened.
I am not sure where you got this egocentric thing....it has to do spending moneys on Maemo and harmattan devices that didn't deliver personally for me. I am not sure Jolla will deliver either but I will wait and see the reviews. I am sure there will be many
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2013-10-14
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The question Is what os that can difference the most. Firefox,jolla, tizen or Ubuntu.
What's your take on that.
What's your take on that.
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2013-10-14
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Because you're not looking at Jolla - or any non-iOS/Android/WP release - as anything but it has to be on the same level of accomplishment(s) and sales as the aforesaid platforms.
I am not sure where you got this egocentric thing....
Some things actually start small. Android did - remember how craptastic the G1 was? They've gotten better it seems.
it has to do spending moneys on Maemo and harmattan devices that didn't deliver personally for me. I am not sure Jolla will deliver either but I will wait and see the reviews. I am sure there will be many
Jolla just may provide what Harmattan "all grown up" might have become. Or it just might be a flash in the pan and whither away like SavaJe and Neonode did. Who knows man... but as it stands, I'm keeping an open mind, looking at this from all angles.
Thus, the egocentric comment from before. I don't think you're doing that. Perhaps you are and I just can't see it - don't mind being wrong.