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2014-03-14
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And there it is: Neo900 Progress Update - March!
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Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
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2014-03-14
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Lots of meetings with notaries and tax advisers were exhausting, but surely needed in order to ensure that our journey can be completed without unpleasant legal implications to anyone.
At the end of February, on embedded world 2014 in Nürnberg there has been an informal meeting of some CEOs: Nikolaus (Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&CO. KG), Joerg (Neo900 UG (haftungsbeschraenkt)), Michael Mrozek (OpenPandora GmbH) and Lukas Märdian (working for GDC on Replicant) and opportunities of closer collaboration and synergies got discussed.
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2014-03-14
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Originally Posted by sulu
About notary-stuff: Some of them were just a organizational matters that needed to be discussed between people doing business with each other. Some of them were money related stuff, aka "how to use money on Goldelico accounts for project that's not in fact managed by Goldelico as a legal entity". That's one of the reasons Neo900 UG was created. More on that will be described in more detail later, as we'll probably have to ask anyone who donated to agree with their money being moved to that new entity.
Would you mind sharing some details about these non-technical issues (perhaps in a seperate thread)?
It's mostly just solving the matters that actually should have been resolved at the very beginning. Nothing interesting to be honest
About Pyra-stuff: we're certainly going to elaborate further on our cooperation and the results both of our projects can get from it, so stay tuned
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Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak - https://dosowisko.net/
Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
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2014-03-22
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About the notary stuff: I finalized founding of
Neo900 UG (haftungsbeschraenkt)
company yesterday, which is the head entity leading the Neo900 project from now on.
All donors will receive a mail from Nikolaus next days, asking them to agree with transfer of project responsibility, their email addr and other data, and their donations from GDC to Neo900 UG.
This is needed to support and manage the project by a dedicated company that is focused on Neo900. The persons behind that project will stay all the same. Nothing will change. A mere commercial organizational thing we had to do.
[edit 2014-04-08] all this tax stuff adding arbitrary complexity to our humble project. Seems the tax advisers themselves have no clue, now they tell us it's not feasible, so we have to find yet another organizational form. :-/ [/edit]
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Last edited by joerg_rw; 2014-04-08 at 11:59.
Neo900 UG (haftungsbeschraenkt)
company yesterday, which is the head entity leading the Neo900 project from now on.
All donors will receive a mail from Nikolaus next days, asking them to agree with transfer of project responsibility, their email addr and other data, and their donations from GDC to Neo900 UG.
This is needed to support and manage the project by a dedicated company that is focused on Neo900. The persons behind that project will stay all the same. Nothing will change. A mere commercial organizational thing we had to do.
[edit 2014-04-08] all this tax stuff adding arbitrary complexity to our humble project. Seems the tax advisers themselves have no clue, now they tell us it's not feasible, so we have to find yet another organizational form. :-/ [/edit]
cheers
jOERG
Last edited by joerg_rw; 2014-04-08 at 11:59.
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2014-03-22
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Tough choice.. Get myself a Toughbook CF-U1 or a upgrade MoBo for a phone that I like very much, a shame that the Neo900 is so expensive still though 
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2014-03-23
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw
Congratulations! It sounds both scary and tedious, I'm sure you are glad to have it behind you.
About the notary stuff: I finalized founding of
Neo900 UG (haftungsbeschraenkt)
All donors will receive a mail from Nikolaus next days, asking them to agree with transfer of project responsibility, their email addr and other data, and their donations from GDC to Neo900 UG.
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2014-03-23
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Yes, indeed
Congratulations! It sounds both scary and tedious, I'm sure you are glad to have it behind you.
Originally Posted by pichlo
Not decided yet. My current take is "don't change anything", particularly since "preorder"-donations went down to not even 2 per week. Needs further discussions with Nikolaus whether he's willing to continue the current setup/procedure for another one or two dozen that might come in.
Sorry to be a PITA and bother you with yet another one of my silly questions but... what does it mean for future orders? Will they follow the same path - preorder at Goldelico followed by transferring responsibilities? Or is it going to be merged into a single step?
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Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900