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2014-09-23 , 14:55
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#51
Originally Posted by aegis View Post
I would.
Hence there is a difference between Indian and European markets. You need to know the market before launching a product. Jolla is unlike other players here as well. They need to follow the aggressive pricing strategy with the mediocre spec and a "fresh" OS which they've got to offer - considering the fact that Android Apps is the point they are highlighting.
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Originally Posted by ranbaxy View Post
What does Jolla have to offer?
Sailfish OS ! If the people don't understand the difference between Android and Sailfish, then take any one of hundreds of Android smartphones.
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#53
Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Sailfish OS ! If the people don't understand the difference between Android and Sailfish, then take any one of hundreds of Android smartphones.
You gotta have either used a Maemo/MeeGo phone or at least have had seen it once in your life to be knowing about Sailfish. Being an average Indian, I would ask "What is Sailfish? I've never heard about it." If you explain me about true linux blah blah and gesture based OS, I am not interested. It supports Android apps? "Interesting". But why would I buy a phone at a higher price when I get "better" phones at cheaper price?
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Originally Posted by ranbaxy View Post
You gotta have either used a Maemo/MeeGo phone or at least have had seen it once in your life to be knowing about Sailfish. Being an average Indian, I would ask "What is Sailfish? I've never heard about it." If you explain me about true linux blah blah and gesture based OS, I am not interested. It supports Android apps? "Interesting". But why would I buy a phone at a higher price when I get "better" phones at cheaper price?
If you think so, go buy an Android smartphone. If you trust your privacy & security to Android, good luck.

Many users don't like Android and/or iOS, they use BlackBerry 10 OS, Sailfish, MeeGo Harmattan, Maemo 5, etc. Hey, you are in a Maemo forum, aren't you ?
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Wow, EUR210 in India x EUR349 in Europe, and there are still Indians complaining about price.

If the Jolla smartphone could be launched in Brazil for EUR300-350 it would be incredible.
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@ranbaxy, there are plenty of Europeans who will just buy the cheapest or most impressive phone based on a spec list. It's not just an Indian thing.

The task for Jolla is to carve out a market that isn't about that. Nobody is suggesting it's easy. Jolla has a number of advantages over other manufacturers but price and specs are not their strong point and they can't fight competition on those fronts. That would be a race to the bottom of the market.
 

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So the price wasent 210 dollars in India?
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Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Wow, EUR210 in India x EUR349 in Europe, and there are still Indians complaining about price.

If the Jolla smartphone could be launched in Brazil for EUR300-350 it would be incredible.
the problem i mentioned at the start of this thread.

i am an n900/n9 owner, i want a sailfish device, but even my enthusiasm won't fall for substandard hardware at a premium price... especially when i know i'm being overcharged in my region.
 
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Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Many users don't like Android and/or iOS, they use BlackBerry 10 OS, Sailfish, MeeGo Harmattan, Maemo 5, etc. Hey, you are in a Maemo forum, aren't you ?
You're talking about less than 2% in some markets. To Jolla that's a sizeable market still.

But overall that's not a lot of people that use BB10, MeeGo, Maemo et al. Especially Maemo. And I say that as a person well aware of my surroundings.

That actually saddens me somewhat.
 

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Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Sailfish OS ! If the people don't understand the difference between Android and Sailfish, then take any one of hundreds of Android smartphones.
Nothing against you, but this exactly is what Jolla is doing to Indian market.
Jolla: Hey, I have a phone and it runs Sailfish.
Average Indian: What's that?
Jolla: You don't know what's Sailfish? You better buy an Android.

End of the story.

Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
If you think so, go buy an Android smartphone. If you trust your privacy & security to Android, good luck.
I have happily imported a Xiaomi Mi3 and am using it since the last 3-4 weeks. So far so good.

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Hey, you are in a Maemo forum, aren't you ?
Am I not supposed to speak out what I think about other platforms here?

I suppose in India, Jolla is just aiming TMO members. If yes, I can count them. I would be glad to see if Jolla manage to sell a few hundred units in a couple of months

Why is it so hard to understand simple logic? 99.9% of Indian population uses smartphone for the purpose it is made for. Not for the kind of stuff you do with your Maemo/MeeGo phone. And they would buy a "better" device at a better price.

Whatever I said is my view and my analysis. I hope I know Indian market better than Europeans

Lemme reiterate. Nobody here knows what Sailfish is, and it is gonna be a flop Mark my words. Being said that, I'm outta this thread; as you've mentioned, this is a Maemo forum
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