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Citing questions about Fortran from other topics :
- from MatPlotLib for Sailfish topic, about possibility of R-base on Sailfish :
- from MatPlotLib for Sailfish topic, about possibility of R-base on Sailfish :
Originally Posted by KabouikI've tried to package R-base(-devel) .rpm package, but it seems to need Fortran compiler, which is not available on Mer/Sailfish.
Thanks for that! I hope you'll port R to Sailfish too someday, can't wait to run/fiddle my scripts on the Jolla!
Fortran is optional dependency for some packages (NumPy), and obligatory for others (SciPy, etc).
Originally Posted by nodevel
That's the problem I ran into as well, when trying to package R-base. I'd love to see SciPy too, so it's a bit of a bummer.
I don't know much about Fortran, though. Is it solvable by simply packaging gcc-fortran or does gcc need to be rebuilt altogether?
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My guess is this is not how you want to go about things but I used to run fortran codes on my N900 and still do occasionly on my Andorid phones via a chroot based approach for different linux distributions. Not too worried about having de. Happy to just work from terminal. Does this approach of running fortran currently exist for the Jolla phone? Thanks for your efforts and sorry if this is too OT...
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2014-09-25
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FWIW this is a Mer issue, not a Jolla one IMHO
mer-core plain gcc should not build fortran - it's not part of the core and adds a lot of overhead in the wrong place
my suggested approach (ie how I'd start) is to fork the mer-core gcc package to a gcc-fortran package, copy the spec file to gcc-fortran.spec and modify it so it builds with fortran enabled but no other changes.
Package the delta as gcc-fortran and unpackage any std gcc files in a way that doesn't collide with mer-core gcc.
Eventually submit to mer-tools
mer-core plain gcc should not build fortran - it's not part of the core and adds a lot of overhead in the wrong place
my suggested approach (ie how I'd start) is to fork the mer-core gcc package to a gcc-fortran package, copy the spec file to gcc-fortran.spec and modify it so it builds with fortran enabled but no other changes.
Package the delta as gcc-fortran and unpackage any std gcc files in a way that doesn't collide with mer-core gcc.
Eventually submit to mer-tools
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2014-09-26
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Originally Posted by lbt
Thanks !
FWIW this is a Mer issue, not a Jolla one IMHO
mer-core plain gcc should not build fortran - it's not part of the core and adds a lot of overhead in the wrong place
my suggested approach (ie how I'd start) is to fork the mer-core gcc package to a gcc-fortran package, copy the spec file to gcc-fortran.spec and modify it so it builds with fortran enabled but no other changes.
Package the delta as gcc-fortran and unpackage any std gcc files in a way that doesn't collide with mer-core gcc.
Eventually submit to mer-tools
But mer-tools repository is not enabled by default on device (smartphone, Jolla, Nexus 4/5, etc). So Fortran libraries could not be used as dependencies by other softwares.
Maybe nemo-mw repository would be better as a place for gcc-gfortran.
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Originally Posted by lbt
If this is done, Mer would be the only distro I know that does this. Is the build overhead added by Fortran _that_ significant?
Package the delta as gcc-fortran and unpackage any std gcc files in a way that doesn't collide with mer-core gcc.
If I end up doing it this way, I will eventually submit the source package to OBS, so the net result is that that there's duplication of work (because now gcc-{c,c++} is built twice). Right?
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I've found that gcc-fortran is not available on Mer :
list of last Mer packages/
Project Mer-core/gcc
The reason seems to be simply the compilation time on ARM :
- the above decision was in 11/2011, now we have faster CPU's (on PC's and smartphones), etc;
- gcc-fortran is :
* useful to anyone who needs to compile Fortran code on device;
* needed as dependency for R-base (statistics language), python-scipy (Python scientific module), etc, or optional dependency for python-numpy (so some NumPy functions become faster) which is dependency of python-pygame (python module for games), python-matplotlib (2D/3D graphics in Python), etc.
What are the options ?
- gcc-fortran should be included by the Mer project when rebuilding "mer-core/gcc.git" (by the Mer-core maintainers) ?
- or gcc-fortran package can be added by the community ?
- or another Fortran (other than gcc-fortran, like g77, f77, etc) can be compiled and package by the community ?
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