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Originally Posted by bluefoot
Wrong. You're just making stuff up now. Moto 360 is powered by TI OMAP and that's a device that launched 2 weeks ago...
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by Morpog
5 year old ... they're using it because there was probably a surplus they could buy for almost nothing, or the same to have a few made.
Yeah, a 3 year old SOC.....
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by vistaus
You're just trolling now. There is no OMAP division at TI, as I'm sure you know now after no doubt googling it. That entire part of TI was wound up 2 years ago. Ignored.
Wrong. You're just making stuff up now. Moto 360 is powered by TI OMAP and that's a device that launched 2 weeks ago...
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2014-09-30
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So everyting "interesting" announced in February has turned out to be vapourware. I though I bought a smart phone, now I am just smarting at what I bought.
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
So the Moto 360 is a brand new device powered by a non-existent SoC? Why would TI sell Motorola a SoC for a device that's gonna be a big hit (hint: look at how many Motorola sold in 2 hours after launching the 360! and that's just the start) if they don't want to do consumer electronics anymore?
You're just trolling now. There is no OMAP division at TI, as I'm sure you know now after no doubt googling it. That entire part of TI was wound up 2 years ago. Ignored.
Surplus doesn't matter. If they stopped doing consumer electronics, then they would've said no to Motorola.
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by vistaus
The specs for the MOTO 360 say it is using an OMAP 3 processor - the same generation of processor used in the N9. TI hasn't released a new OMAP processor for smartphone/tablet use in 2 years as has been pointed out earlier. They're probably still sitting on a whole bunch of unsold parts that they want to dump.
Wrong. You're just making stuff up now. Moto 360 is powered by TI OMAP and that's a device that launched 2 weeks ago...
You're not going to see any new smartphone using OMAP going forward. The only serious competitor to Qualcomm is Mediatek at the lower end, now that they have a working LTE modem, I don't think Samsung's SoCs have an integrated LTE modem. Intel has an applications processor, but no integrated LTE (yet). They do have a stand alone LTE modem though.
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So if TI runs out of OMAP3 SoC's before the 360's heydays are over, then the Moto 360 will be the shortest to live smart watch ever? Because if we look at the current sales of the Moto 360, they have sold an incredible amount of 360's already, meaning TI's stock of OMAP3 lying around is gonna run out very soon.
Intel has ARM CPU's but no LTE Modem AFAIK.
Intel has ARM CPU's but no LTE Modem AFAIK.
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Potato, tomato
only the upper layers of the Android stack
One might argue that Sailfish already contains the "lower layers", and that Alien Dalvik brings the "upper layers", except that they don't actually talk to the Sailfish lower layers but rather to Alien's "emulated lower layer".
I don't plan to make any effort to hide this because it is the sad truth. It is a compromise that I wish it need not have been done. In a scale of priority, however, I put it as less important than releasing all the Sailfish sources and ... GPLv3 bash
. Just because I can imagine the difficulty involved.
Originally Posted by bluefoot
Actually it is beyond the realms of possibly to think that Ubuntu will get native drivers. Specially not from Mediatek to begin with.
This is *perhaps* not entirely true. Meizu have their Ubuntu pre-loaded MX4, and Ubuntu ROM for existing MX4 users coming in December. It's possible that Mediatek has produced native drivers for Linux, rather than using their existing Android ones and running it through libhybris (which Ubuntu also uses). This is a very high volume device from a big OEM. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that drivers for the main SoC will be native (though I'm sure everything else will be Android).
I was not lying when I mentioned all remaining non-Android phones all have subforums on this website.
Ubuntu Touch is Android (libhybris)-based too, as is Firefox OS (the later being 'more Android' than Ubuntu or Sailfish).
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by javispedro
If Meizu wants native drivers for the SoC, Mediatek will almost certainly not refuse. They're very big, and soon likely to be huge. They're also an incredibly valued customer as they're shirking Qualcomm entirely, and indeed it's their stated policy. Besides, if Ubuntu looks like it will take off, then having native drivers for their SoCs will be an asset for them in the fight to win business from OEMs intending to release Ubuntu phones / ROMs. But it is probably unlikely at this stage.
Actually it is beyond the realms of possibly to think that Ubuntu will get native drivers. Specially not from Mediatek to begin with.
I was not lying when I mentioned all remaining non-Android phones have subforums on this website.
Ubuntu Touch is Android-based too, as is Firefox OS.
Dunno why you want to jibe at Mediatek? I assume you're one of the camp that is frustrated and flummoxed by their prior policy of not releasing drivers / source etc for anything. They're a young company forged in a hyper competitive landscape in Taiwan / China, where if they widely distributed their code, competitors would appropriate it and use it in their own products within months. Now that they're big enough, and are now competing with the big dogs, they can afford not to worry about knock-offs and code-stealing running them out of business. Hence why their policy has changed lately. Their policy was borne out of necessity, not because they want to lock everything down.
Personally I'm grateful that there is an emerging competitor for the virtual monopoly of Qualcomm, especially as they're not US based. Samsung as of yet aren't competing head on.
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2014-09-30
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Originally Posted by vistaus
I wonder if they'll order more chips from their fabs if that were to happen.
So if TI runs out of OMAP3 SoC's before the 360's heydays are over, then the Moto 360 will be the shortest to live smart watch ever? Because if we look at the current sales of the Moto 360, they have sold an incredible amount of 360's already, meaning TI's stock of OMAP3 lying around is gonna run out very soon.
Intel has ARM CPU's but no LTE Modem AFAIK.
Intel definitely does have LTE modems - http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/mobile/modem-solutions.html
And their smartphone/tablet platform is x86, not ARM AFAIK.
