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	coderus	2014-11-04 , 12:19
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do your best to understand. because it's very important.

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pagis	2014-11-04 , 12:52
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In a very simplistic way, the OS will use most of the available memory, you should start worrying when it starts making extensive use of the swap area, e.g. the last line of the output of the free command.

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JoOppen	2014-11-04 , 13:44
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Originally Posted by coderus

@cvp OMG OMG OMG!!! Your phone is FULL!!! Delete some data and/or do btrfs balance!
TJC: root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems

Actually, the figures of pichlo and cvp appear to be pretty normal. My figures are very similar and there is neither to much stuff on my Jolla (at least, I beleive so) nor is it lacking responsiveness.

Maybe all our Jollas are close to being full. Or put it differently: how should the figures of a not-too-full Jolla look like?

Casanunda	2014-11-04 , 13:53
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Originally Posted by coderus

@cvp OMG OMG OMG!!! Your phone is FULL!!! Delete some data and/or do btrfs balance!
TJC: root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems

I can confirm the method stated in the linked tjc thread worked for me, too.
Had a huge impact on the device's responsiveness.

I also had complete device full according to btrfs fi show - although real disk usage was only ~9GB.
The device would hang for several seconds quite often, Android apps were basically unusable.

Now it's much better again...

	coderus	2014-11-04 , 15:18
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Not full Jolla:
[root@Jolla nemo]# btrfs fi show
Label: 'sailfish' uuid: 0f8a2490-53ed-4ff6-ba34-b81df3430387
Total devices 1 FS bytes used 1.99GB
devid 1 size 13.75GB used 7.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28
Full Jolla:
[root@Jolla ~]# btrfs fi show
Label: 'sailfish' uuid: 0f8a2490-53ed-4ff6-ba34-b81df3430387
Total devices 1 FS bytes used 10.75GB
devid 1 size 13.75GB used 13.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28
See the difference?

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aegis	2014-11-04 , 15:59
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I had the same '13.75GB used 13.75GB' issue after the Uitakka update which made the phone barely usable when running more than 4 apps. Deleting mail caused a 'not responding' message every time I tried to delete a mail.

They said in their release notes that the phone might lag in particular low memory instances but it was pretty awful, so I investigated why.

They're going to have to fix the btrfs issues as I imagine a lot of non-technical users have made their phones much, much worse.

JoOppen	2014-11-04 , 16:02
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@coderus: great, that was very helpfull, thank you!

I just balanced my Jolla - et voila: it now only uses 7,71GB

before it was using all 13,75GB but I did not mind, because everything appeared fine to me.

You might have saved my day (or week, or month?) So, thanks again

	tiempjuuh	2014-11-04 , 16:07
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Originally Posted by pichlo

I know but since the used swap is quite low, I am not that bothered. Besides, it was through SSH from my N900 (to allow cut'n'paste, which is a royal PITA on Jolla). It says 89MB directly on Jolla with SSH closed. Also, SysMon shows very different results (only 480MB used, not 790MB as free is indicating).

I am more interested in the 830MB of total RAM. I was expexting 1024MB or thereabouts.

You've got about 300MB cached. 'Cached' in Linux means it's used by the system to start applications faster (because RAM is faster than an HDD), but if an application wants to use this memory, the system will free it. You should take 'Free + Cached' as your final amount of free memory. This is what System monitor does as well, by the way.

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Casanunda	2014-11-04 , 16:28
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I had the full disk issue without going for the opt-in update.
So it's not directly related to it - only I suppose the update will use some additional disk space and make the chance of the problem appering higher.