Responding to another post...
It dawned on me that this thread really should belong in the "Competitors" sub-forum ...
What started out as just a "Holy-Cow! Look at this!..." kinda general interest post...
has since evolved beyond that ..into a still-unfurling debate which has some weight to it.

Hence ...I would appreciate a Moderator taking the time ( sorry to bother you man ) to move the entirety of this whole thread over to really where it should be ... in the "Competitors" sub-forum.
Thanks.

done!!!

Windows 10: fist update
https://support.microsoft.com/it-it/...-it/kb/3081424

Can't say more, becausi I didn't install Windows 10

Ouch!
http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...ss-reboot-loop

Raises hand... I was hit by that one. Had to do a clean install. Got stuck fixing wi-fi issues - wrong drivers on the Microsoft built/branded Surface 3 kept installing first somehow.

Regardless, this is a privacy nightmare. Join to a new wi-fi network, it'll ask if you want to share the password to your contacts. At least it asks, right?

Glad that I have Win10 Pro. Disabled all those shitt

Argh!
It just doesn't stop!
real big yikes!
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-to-microsoft/

Be warned, there's another cumulative update that went live in the last day or so. So far, my errors have lessened.

I've not lost any functionality - other than Cortana asking me to turn on my location repeatedly - by limiting the collection of data on my Surface so far while running Win10. Will say that once I start blocking all services that report out to a 207.*.*.* IP address, let's see what happens then.

It gets much worse than that. They just changed the EULA to 'allow' them to delete or render inactive software, hardware or peripherals that they deem illegitimate or pirated ... and it's not just their software / hardware / peripherals, but any. Aside from the very obvious privacy issues, intent, imperfect application and that they have zero jurisdiction to act as judge, jury and executioner in complex legal matters, this cannot possibly be compatible with EU law. I really hope they get smacked with another huge fine ... hopefully it won't take a 5-10 year investigation to slap this one down. Aside from snooping, this is very clearly what the mandatory updates are aimed at. I'd encourage anyone to write to the relevant EU authorities about this, and particularly the Competition Commission, since this could clearly be used to disadvantage competitors.

Oh, and something I wasn't aware of until recently was that since W8, MS allows OEMs to rootkit their own hardware through a backdoor in Windows which allows firmware to inject code into even freshly formatted and (some) encrypted hard drives. That crapware or malware shipped with the system? If you remove it or wipe and reinstall, it'll be there when you reboot. Good stuff. Lenovo & HP have reportedly begun using this, with Lenovo support claiming that they 'own' the hardware you bought, and it's against the ToS to even format and install a fresh copy of Windows.

Thin end of the wedge.

Looks like W7 will indeed be my last Windows OS, unless a comprehensive and transparent rooting method becomes available for W10 (from what I understand, so much is now reliant on mothership based auth that it will be massively harder than previous versions), allowing you to disable all the ********.

I 2nd that.
For myself.
Flat out.
Last straw.
It's just too much to accept
Now Win 7 is also the end of the road for me as well.
S'okay.
I will just keep using win 7 the same way I utilized xp tablet edition ..
even after win 7 is officially dumped I'll still continue to use it...specifically for a few of the graphic art programs..
That's all I've been using it for anyway for the last half decade + years now anyway.
Past that I use my fav distros...for other graphic progs and literally everything else...
I made sure back in the day to "evolve" mah Win-fins into Linux-legs
so thankfully it doesn't really impact me much at all now.

Just a cryin' shame is all I can say..