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Devil's advocate here... but Cyanogenmod building on top of Android is really no different than Jolla building Sailfish on top of Mer, which came from MeeGo basically. It's all about adoption rates - MeeGo didn't get adopted as much, Mer less but they built on top of an existing system. Both of them.
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2015-11-23
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2015-11-23
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Noted. But is that applicable in the beginning during the N8x0 days when Mer was starting out?
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2015-11-23
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Devil's advocate here... but Cyanogenmod building on top of Android is really no different than Jolla building Sailfish on top of Mer, which came from MeeGo basically. It's all about adoption rates - MeeGo didn't get adopted as much, Mer less but they built on top of an existing system. Both of them.
I think the difference though would be the investors.
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2015-11-23
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Well, Mer was mostly product of a person who was Jolla's employee. It was not completely a separate entity and not even remotely as well funded than Android has been for years. Even if Mer inherited some parts from MeeGo (which by the time of deep sixing was not ready), it constitues only portion of what is needed to build an actual device. In comparison, you can take Android, use development tools already there and have complete ecosystem in place via Google which leads easily to wide adoption rates as people really don't have to change anything on adoption. Jolla had to take Mer and Nemo, then create SDK, then do one HW adaptation which went to trash bin when STEriccson pulled the plug from NovaThor, then they coded libhybris, switched to Qt5 and Wayland, do another HW adaptation and put together an infrastucture to support all of it with severely limited funding. So in that regard there is really no comparison between those two.
True. Because Cyanogen is in position where it's easier to succeed. For the reasons I mentioned. Not many are ready to fund Sailfish because if it doesn't fly, they will lose everything and risk for it is way bigger than with Cyanogen/Android. Hopefully they are still able to close the financing round so I don't have to evacuate to Apple-world. At least yet...
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2015-11-23
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Determining an optimal set of features is like finding diamonds in a mountain. You don’t want the whole mountain, just the important chunks.
PC thinkers look only at the features. They neglect the question of whether the user benefits from these features and whether new features make the product too complicated to use.
Handheld thinkers look at the overall curve. They see that piling on features in the style of in the PC style would move Palm OS products lower on the user-experience axis.
When PC thinkers recommend rushing along the features axis to make a product seem better, handheld thinkers know this could make the product worse.
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2015-11-23
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2015-11-23
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Really, it seems that the N900 is something to a lot of people. Maybe we should open another thread to discuss exactly _what_ it is, since I'm not sure I get it.
N900 with Maemo5 operating system was a first device delivering a desktop PC experience to your pocket. Not a phablet, mind it. A desktop experience, with windows, multitasking, keyboard and real apps (not a dumb down phone ones).
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2015-11-24
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It was biting me for a long time too. What is so special to me with N900?
When I realized it, I summed it up as:
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Cyanogen is also, as stated above, quite small too - approximate the same size as Jolla. Cyanogen also is doing something that Jolla is doing - hitting up smaller companies to make their mark (ex. OnePlus, YU, a couple of others) whereas Jolla had Intex (another smaller company).
I think the difference though would be the investors.