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2016-01-08
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#102
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Originally Posted by javispedro
Any non-native solution will incur some inefficiency and consume more resources.
But the important question here is: why is it not as good and efficient as running Linux natively?
Is it RAM? Because at some point that stops being a problem.
Is it 3D acceleration? That is not only fixable, but also most other "Linux native" mobile environments have the same problem.
Is it integration with the host operating system
or because you actually prefer it over the host environment? That's the only reason I currently have for preferring a native Linux environment, but even I myself admit I don't see this idea flying with many people.
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2016-01-08
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#103
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Originally Posted by Dave999
I think the Surface Pro is just too big. I want something that fits in my pocket.
what about Surface Pro and OS of your choice. Might be a bit big but plenty powerful.
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2016-01-08
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#104
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Originally Posted by javispedro
Just a question - if you are dependent upon the hosts network manager does this compromise security ?
..., the only thing I can thing that won't work is "host integration", i.e. installing NetworkManager on the chroot will not replace the host's network manager. But other than freaks like me, who may want that?
Would it defy VPN management ?
Ubuntu does exactly that:
I have discovered that VPN breaks inside Ubuntu Touch unless you wrap the system inside a cocoon.
This is probably why the Ubuntu Touch system has -zero- VPN solutions available for installation.
Fixable - but the hazards are very real.
I am inside a rising storm of governmental internet blockage
and not having immediate direct control of what my connection is doing is,
right now - very annoying, later - possibly very dangerous.
Having some stray javascript dialing home to somewhere local authorities
regard as a 'national security issue' could cost you your head in the wrong jurisdictions.
For some oblivious Android user this is not a problem to plead ignorance about.
For people like us carrying modified communications gear
the glimmering stares of suspicion may accept no amount of reasoning.
[side note - back in the early 90's I recall getting security called on me for simply showing up in a Toshiba plant to ask how to wire my brand new mobile handset for rs232 so I could hack faxes over it. The Toshiba management grilled me for over an hour in a locked room. Eventually they calmed down and let me go, but they were not interested in me being able to hack the device they sold me. It was a both a local government issue and a corporate security issue.
Of course they made it onto my do-not-buy list.]
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2016-01-08
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#105
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Oh...
I hearda you...theonelaw...
you're THAT GUY...
Naw actually never heard anything....
jeez man where you live that it is that dangerous?
crap man...
time to move...
here where I live...
they could care less...
for now anyway....
who knows about the future eh?..
I hearda you...theonelaw...
you're THAT GUY...
Naw actually never heard anything....
jeez man where you live that it is that dangerous?
crap man...
time to move...
here where I live...
they could care less...
for now anyway....
who knows about the future eh?..
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#106
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Any revelations at CES2016 on that topic ?
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2016-01-08
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#107
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Originally Posted by kureyon
I may be wrong but I think javispero meant not so much how well the integration is done but that it is done at all. An integration with the host OS means an additional layer for most things plus sharing resources between the two OSes. That is inherently less efficient than one IS having an exclusive access.
AThe integration is pretty well done, considering. You can also configure it to autostart the linux environment on android bootup.
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2016-01-08
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#108
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how about something like a Asus Zenphone 2 as a starting point as IIRC it uses an atom processor.
For UI, what about following the Jolla libhybris route to get wayland and then making uses of libmutter. Solus/Budgie are using it for their desktop to provide an alternative to gnome-shell. The code required from to get a custom libmutter WM running is quite small. I took a look a while back as an alternative to hildon-desktop/libmatchbox2 combination for GTK3.
For UI, what about following the Jolla libhybris route to get wayland and then making uses of libmutter. Solus/Budgie are using it for their desktop to provide an alternative to gnome-shell. The code required from to get a custom libmutter WM running is quite small. I took a look a while back as an alternative to hildon-desktop/libmatchbox2 combination for GTK3.
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2016-01-08
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#109
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Originally Posted by Android_808
Zenphone: no hwkb :/
how about something like a Asus Zenphone 2 as a starting point as IIRC it uses an atom processor.
For UI, what about following the Jolla libhybris route to get wayland and then making uses of libmutter. Solus/Budgie are using it for their desktop to provide an alternative to gnome-shell. The code required from to get a custom libmutter WM running is quite small. I took a look a while back as an alternative to hildon-desktop/libmatchbox2 combination for GTK3.
Mutter/Muffin are WM, h-d is a DE. Do you want to leave h-d and just change the WM?
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#110
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Originally Posted by kureyon
Only RAM, not much, and if you use swap it will be mostly swapped out immediately as long as you don't use it.
Any non-native solution will incur some inefficiency and consume more resources.
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For example, you can run apt-get install on a chroot on top on Android. I use emerge on my Jolla.
(In fact, I use a RPI2 to build Gentoo binary packages for the Jolla. Anything graphical is painful though, but that's mostly because almost no one uses Gentoo for ARM).
And also as in the previous case, the only thing I can thing that won't work is "host integration", i.e. installing NetworkManager on the chroot will not replace the host's network manager. But other than freaks like me, who may want that?