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	Copernicus	2016-01-28 , 15:20
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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz

I assume you mean ARM not AMD...

Gaah, gotta slow down and look at what I'm posting.

I kinda liked the idea of the tablet being x86 personally, as there is a potential to run the mainline linux kernel on the device along with the mesa graphics drivers.

??? I'm kinda confused, I was pretty sure the mainline Linux kernel had at least some built-in support for ARM. (I'm trying to get up to speed with the details of porting Linux & Mer right now...)

But in any case, I'm just saying that there's no need to just give up on the whole ARM-based world right at the start.

	Dave999	2016-01-28 , 15:26
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Originally Posted by mscion

Hey Dave. Maybe the refund will arrive just in time for you to purchase your new tablet!

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/27/a...nt-ipad-rumor/

Could be But I think I pass. I have enough Apples as it is

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robthebold	2016-01-28 , 15:27
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Originally Posted by youmeego

How do we know if we are getting the tablet or refund?

If you get an email soon(TM) you get your tablet soon(TM) unless it gets delayed. Otherwise, you'll get an email later-soon and get a refund by the end of the year, unless you don't get it or it gets delayed.

At any rate, we'll know soon(TM). Like I mean when I tell my wife I'll get her last year's anniversary present real soon now.

	Copernicus	2016-01-28 , 15:32
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Originally Posted by aegis

Huh? Jolla seems to keep an unofficial distance from the ports on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

Yup. Totally unofficial. A complete sandbox environment for setting up and maintaining your own port of Sailfish to your own device, a fairly massive guide taking you step-by-step through the process, space on their website to publicize these items, an irc chatroom set up just for porters, and a central hub set up to publish finished ports.

Nope, no official support at all here! This was obviously all done by employees in their free time. We at Jolla put absolutely no effort into this at all, and don't want to help people doing this in any way!

r0kk3rz	2016-01-28 , 15:35
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Originally Posted by Copernicus

??? I'm kinda confused, I was pretty sure the mainline Linux kernel had at least some built-in support for ARM. (I'm trying to get up to speed with the details of porting Linux & Mer right now...)

But in any case, I'm just saying that there's no need to just give up on the whole ARM-based world right at the start.

There is ARM support in the mainline, however...

When it comes to driver support for particular bits and bobs you might find in any given SoC, these are often written and released essentially as a kernel fork, and *not* submitted into the mainline kernel. This means you need to rely on the hardware vendor to update the kernel to newer versions or to patch in the required drivers into kernel updates yourself. Not to mention their kernels tend to target Android rather than a GNU based Linux environment.

Intel is better at mainlining their drivers than QComm, and much better than mediatek or allwinner.

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	pichlo	2016-01-28 , 15:47
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Originally Posted by Copernicus

So far, Jolla has been very good about maintaining Sailfish across all the devices running it (few as those may be). So software updates may continue (assuming Jolla itself remains standing).

They will have to, if they want to license it. Although they may leave hardware adaptation to the OEMs. The worse thing that could happen to the tablet users is continued Sailfish support but no more driver updates. I would not see that as a big problem.

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	Fellfrosch	2016-01-28 , 15:47
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic

That is what I meant. A high spec device with a physical keyboard will never happen.

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gerbick	2016-01-28 , 15:50
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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch

Well...
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Ok rubish OS, but nice hardware

Not manufactured by Jolla though. I think that's the "not gonna happen" part that's left out.

robthebold	2016-01-28 , 16:07
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So 121 early tablets and another 540 means that perhaps the first 600 or so backers and other lucky ones may get a device? With lots of caveats, of course.

Now where's that spreadsheet where we were speculating on our order numbers . . . well, here's the list that was posted on dropbox. No tablet for me.

Last edited by robthebold; 2016-01-28 at 16:12.

aegis	2016-01-28 , 16:20
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Originally Posted by Copernicus

Yup. Totally unofficial. A complete sandbox environment for setting up and maintaining your own port of Sailfish to your own device, a fairly massive guide taking you step-by-step through the process, space on their website to publicize these items, an irc chatroom set up just for porters, and a central hub set up to publish finished ports.

Nope, no official support at all here! This was obviously all done by employees in their free time. We at Jolla put absolutely no effort into this at all, and don't want to help people doing this in any way!

Exactly. Support stops at 'Here's HADK, go check out IRC'.

That may as well be 'Here's the plans of an Airbus A380, the phone number for an engineer and a paper map' when all they want is a holiday in Benidorm.

A few fully supported devices beyond their own, with Android support, codecs etc would be useful for those that don't want to build planes. The closest is probably Fairphone but neither Jolla nor Fairphone are 100% on it being a *fully* supported port as that implies proper QA, support and warranty.