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2016-02-01
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Originally Posted by mosen
Interesting, thanks!
The investigation by simo brought some results!
Exclusive interview with Juhani Lassila on the china connection
Originally Posted by mosen
So, it's almost what we were saying here: some Chinese factory "was inspired by" the iPhone prototype's design, then provided that for the Aigo and Jolla tablets, and the companies customized it (-> Jolla's Finnish design).
On the discussed Aigo:
"The similarity comes from factory design - smaller manufacturers save in expenses by selecting their design from an assortment offered by the factory. Jolla picked their hardware, colors, and of course added their unique software to differentiate for Finnish design."
Originally Posted by mosen
Yes, it's interesting if they can/will block those devices, or whether the Taobao tablets will work identically to the official ones.
And on taobao tablets with sailfish:
"Officially these devices do not support Jolla Store or updates, as they are not sold through official channels," says Lassila."
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Now, this wants me to buy on of those chinese-sailfishs and try "OFFICIALLY not supported"!
Sounds like an invitation
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2016-02-01
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Originally Posted by Dave999
It was some delicious speculation on the relationship between the Aigo and the Jolla, and how that may have influenced the parts availability excuse, as the Aigo has also been discontinued.
are we blaming the designer today for this scam?
Why no invitations today...its feb
My next thought is if a backer buys a Taobao Sailfish, then it's reasonable for Jolla to offer store support for it as a gesture of good faith. What would this involve? Some sort of key in the efi vars?
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2016-02-01
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Thinking about the pros and cons of getting a chinafish, i need to turn around on my previous statement.
As eager as i am to check them out, wouldn't it be cool if we could start some kind of ban towards the chinafishes so they are never sold and then much later offered to jolla for a much cheaper price?
Last edited by mosen; 2016-02-01 at 18:58.
As eager as i am to check them out, wouldn't it be cool if we could start some kind of ban towards the chinafishes so they are never sold and then much later offered to jolla for a much cheaper price?
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Last edited by mosen; 2016-02-01 at 18:58.
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Originally Posted by mosen
That was my first thought, but I think they'd be sold off as android before that happened. I don't think the scumbag can be beaten.
Thinking about the pros and cons of getting a chinafish, i need to turn around on my previous statement.
As eager as i am to check them out, wouldn't i be cool if we could start some kind of ban towards the chinafishes so they are never sold and then much later offered to jolla for a much cheaper price?
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2016-02-01
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Originally Posted by billranton
February 9, 2015
Have you got any pictures of that design as s standard ODM design? I always thought it had too much similarity with the phone to have been designed elsewhere. The Indiegogo page explicitly states that it was designed in Finland too, so I'd assumed it was the same company who designed the phone.
Note: Same camera, back and speaker location
More pictures... same date.
Some key differences... processor, screen, USB connector amongst other small changes (ex. color).
The word "designed" is probably pretty loosely used here to be honest but the modifications are enough different from the Aigo x86 design. I cannot locate the ODM responsible for that design - I swear I had it.
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2016-02-01
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#4457
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Originally Posted by mosen
I think it would be cooler if jolla gave their blessing for us to go and buy them and help get sailfish on them.
Thinking about the pros and cons of getting a chinafish, i need to turn around on my previous statement.
As eager as i am to check them out, wouldn't i be cool if we could start some kind of ban towards the chinafishes so they are never sold and then much later offered to jolla for a much cheaper price?
At the end of the day the more sailfish devices out there in people's hands, the better for Jolla in the long run.
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2016-02-01
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Originally Posted by billranton
Oh that's really disappointing that they had to partner with another company for industrial design.
I found the phone designer: http://infinity.fi/jolla/
I always assumed that the interesting but relatively lacklustre design (and slightly naff components) was due to an ODM rush around the time of changing the chipset but that they still had all the people who made the beautiful N9 on staff.
Last ditch hope we'll see something interesting from Jolla/Intex at MWC...
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2016-02-01
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#4459
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They need to open up the Sailfish licensing mechanism to any self-installed device. I could see why they didn't when they were still in the hw business, but now it seems pointless not to.
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2016-02-01
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HAHA, if these numbers are correct, there is not much to ban 
Concidering some of the sellers offer them since our first find end of November... I sold equal amount of sea horse sushi like "JustBig Amoy Shop" sold tablets
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...3s2u7C_r3azHg/
Last edited by mosen; 2016-02-01 at 19:41.
Concidering some of the sellers offer them since our first find end of November... I sold equal amount of sea horse sushi like "JustBig Amoy Shop" sold tablets
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...3s2u7C_r3azHg/
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Last edited by mosen; 2016-02-01 at 19:41.
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