Originally Posted by szopin

gerbick: idk man, seeing how anti-trump all media/elites are makes one believe he is not part of that and actually wants to change things? no chance in hell with hillary (bushes are voting for her ffs), pretty sure sanders would also turn out to be just another politician (ala obama), if he actually is not lying he might get better deals than bought politicians that's for sure, bs I know, but at least hope

Originally Posted by endsormeans

Snow.... Dave?
Lucky you...
We have had so many years running of fabulous weather (at the detriment to our northern rain forests' lack of rainfall) that now that it is a la nina year we may finally get snow earlier than usual...
No matter what though...
out here...
it never lasts the day...
most times it simply doesn't last once it hits the ground...
If we are lucky we may get a week where it snows...
but it won't stay...
good for us down below the mountains...
good for the mountains and skiing...
good for the snow pack and the reservoirs ...

And szopin....
hahaha

"No..you are?"

hahaha
that is your intelligent, well thought out argument?
backed by reputable data?...
from reputable sources?
1 article from a muck rag...
no rather...
muck blog?
that the best you got?

.

For myself I am most certainly not swallowing any of the crap you are trying to spoon feed...

peddle your hate to someone else...

Originally Posted by gerbick

Could be the opposing camp that's been long denied entry. Sorta like the Rothschild's disallowing the Bethmann's entry into dominating the global market of who actually runs things.

Either way we go, the layman will not get what they want. And lazily enough, we've gotten used to rolling over and taking it.

"The moment you want to become a politician, I start to doubt your sincerity." - my father

Originally Posted by szopin

Wise words, but without hope. We can give up already or still try. Term limits are not a new thing, ancient romans had them on pretty much every position (not the pontifex maximus which brought cesar and term limits don't matter after that). Doubt trump can ever push through his ethics reform, but term limits would help (also lobbying limits), 30 years in politics netting you hundreds of millions is just wrong

Originally Posted by gerbick

There's hope in those words. Don't become a politician. Become a servant to the public. There's a big difference - one that is easily forgotten when you have rich lobbyists in your face waving money, power, promises and p... well, the word that got Trump in trouble lately.

Term limits are great for excising the current cancer. The problem is that the incoming "new blood" are already looking at how to get over in a system that's yet fully depleted and the people are as gullible as last year. Just paint a new target and direction, they'll follow.

People forget all too easily that each and every politician can be recalled. We need to do that more often.

Originally Posted by szopin

Ok, your old man was a cynic at best.

We will soon see second historic event in a matter of few weeks: first woman president to be impeached (first first pair to be impeached too). You've given up. And people who have hope are branded as deplorables, if you're a part of broken system and accept it without fight... damn lets not go there, they're both corrupt, let the best win

Originally Posted by gerbick

"I ain't adding no extra u to color, humor, behavior or shotgun." - Typical American

Originally Posted by pichlo

And neighbor. Don't forget neighbor. Although I have no idea why not go one better and spell it neibor. The gh is silent anyway.