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2017-09-20
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#162
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Originally Posted by juiceme
If you want very high longevity on battery, for a device that is not used for high performances graphics, but as an SSH terminal or local editor (but not for kernel compilation on device...), there are dedicated low power CPU like the SAMA5 from Atmel (now Microchip).
AA batteries with RasPI!
You'd need a suitcase full of em
Mainline linux support is quite good (Free Electrons is in charge of it), Qt is available, and consumption is below 150mW at full speed (which is only 500/600MHz...) and can be lower a lot in idle to 300uW (from website: http://www.atmel.com/products/microc...ARM/sama5.aspx)
It can't compete with a raspberry pi 3, and even less with a Galaxy S8, performances wise, but for a "linux hand-held" machine, it would allow 26h of operating at full speed on a single standard alkaline AA battery (1.5V, 2600mAh), and months of idle time. Don't forget to take into account screen/wifi/auxiliary consumption however, as they would be the one consuming the most...
Freescale's imx6/7 range could be another way to do it with a more powerful chip (some have several cores, and GPU, but are still quite low power).
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#163
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Originally Posted by Zeta
Nice to know. But this is a very limited experience. Not one that covers 1/10th of what I require.
If you want very high longevity on battery, for a device that is not used for high performances graphics, but as an SSH terminal or local editor (but not for kernel compilation on device...), there are dedicated low power CPU like the SAMA5 from Atmel (now Microchip).
Mainline linux support is quite good (Free Electrons is in charge of it), Qt is available, and consumption is below 150mW at full speed (which is only 500/600MHz...) and can be lower a lot in idle to 300uW (from website: http://www.atmel.com/products/microc...ARM/sama5.aspx)
It can't compete with a raspberry pi 3, and even less with a Galaxy S8, performances wise, but for a "linux hand-held" machine, it would allow 26h of operating at full speed on a single standard alkaline AA battery (1.5V, 2600mAh), and months of idle time. Don't forget to take into account screen/wifi/auxiliary consumption however, as they would be the one consuming the most...
Freescale's imx6/7 range could be another way to do it with a more powerful chip (some have several cores, and GPU, but are still quite low power).
Good but too limited.
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2017-09-20
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#164
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Please don't forget that there are not 2 persons with the same needs in this thread, so the "best handheld" question will never been answered
Nice to know. But this is a very limited experience. Not one that covers 1/10th of what I require.
Good but too limited.
(Expecting now another 10 pages "linux community is doomed because nobody can agree on what is needed" in 3, 2, 1.... sorry for that
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2017-09-20
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#165
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GOD PEOPLE!!!!!
Are you blind?
Can't you see????
The Linux community is Doooooomeedddd!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you blind?
Can't you see????
The Linux community is Doooooomeedddd!!!!!!!!!!!
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2017-09-20
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#166
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Actually Zeta ...
you are completely correct in your argument...
"Please don't forget that there are not 2 persons with the same needs in this thread, so the "best handheld" question will never been answered .."
and of course everyone knows what that means...
equilibrium must be maintained..
closure must be attained...
soooo...
I will have to kill you all here in Talk Maemo ..
to conclude this recurring....
perpetually looping..
"hyperspace bypass conundrum" thread.
(BTW ....the Vogons were completely in the right...)
you are completely correct in your argument...
"Please don't forget that there are not 2 persons with the same needs in this thread, so the "best handheld" question will never been answered .."
and of course everyone knows what that means...
equilibrium must be maintained..
closure must be attained...
soooo...
I will have to kill you all here in Talk Maemo ..
to conclude this recurring....
perpetually looping..
"hyperspace bypass conundrum" thread.
(BTW ....the Vogons were completely in the right...)
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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2017-09-20
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#167
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Originally Posted by Zeta
No, I haven't forgotten that. I think what needs to be noted is that I was gracious enough to say "not for me" basically.
Please don't forget that there are not 2 persons with the same needs in this thread, so the "best handheld" question will never been answered
(Expecting now another 10 pages "linux community is doomed because nobody can agree on what is needed" in 3, 2, 1.... sorry for that
For instance. The people in this forum want smaller phones. Great for them. I have big hands, ever-worsening eyesight and above all, I actually use the phone for more than a terminal. I don't say much more than "not for me" and vote with my money.
In fact, I even said "nice to know". Somebody says something counter to some other geek and it gets pointed out.
In the end, you'll buy what you like. I'll buy what I like. The rest is just conversation. That's the good thing about this forum... we all share our opinions here.
Opinions are often like *******s. They may stink but we all have one.
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2017-09-20
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
You totally missed your chance to yell out "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE"...
soooo...
I will have to kill you all here in Talk Maemo ..
to conclude this recurring....
perpetually looping..
"hyperspace bypass conundrum" thread.
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2017-09-20
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#169
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Originally Posted by Zeta
Well, I betcha you could get a pretty strong consensus on this thread about what was the best linux handheld in 2009. Sometimes the choice is clear.
Please don't forget that there are not 2 persons with the same needs in this thread, so the "best handheld" question will never been answered
(Expecting now another 10 pages "linux community is doomed because nobody can agree on what is needed" in 3, 2, 1.... sorry for that
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2017-09-21
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#170
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Originally Posted by pichlo
https://youtu.be/NMkhRK2lV0E
Where is this one from? It is the best looking beast so far.
A bit bigger, with a stylus and taking standard AA batteries like the good ole HP 95LX and I would buy it in a jiffy:
http://www.oldcomputers.net/pics/hp95lx.jpg
Something like that should definitely be possible to DIY.
This one has a touchscreen, with a stylus too.
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You'd need a suitcase full of em