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2017-09-20
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#11
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i wonder if Maemo Council can help in any way?
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2017-09-20
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Please please please ...
No matter what...
make sure there is a good noob friendly walk through ..
a foolproof idiot's guide..
a video tutorial ...
whatever...it takes.
for those who just know how to turn the "power button" on...
but want to learn more...
it will in the end pay off with increased numbers... of individuals joining the community...more people testing...more people helping...
well ...you get the domino effect from the result...
No matter what...
make sure there is a good noob friendly walk through ..
a foolproof idiot's guide..
a video tutorial ...
whatever...it takes.
for those who just know how to turn the "power button" on...
but want to learn more...
it will in the end pay off with increased numbers... of individuals joining the community...more people testing...more people helping...
well ...you get the domino effect from the result...
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Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2017-09-20
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#13
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Originally Posted by sicelo
They are. They are providing (some) infra.
i wonder if Maemo Council can help in any way?
Originally Posted by endsormeans
I think that will happen - but right now we need a few more weeks to get things in a better shape first. Then we'll make a detailed post/announcement and ask for help too.
Please please please ...
No matter what...
make sure there is a good noob friendly walk through ..
a foolproof idiot's guide..
a video tutorial ...
whatever...it takes.
for those who just know how to turn the "power button" on...
but want to learn more...
it will in the end pay off with increased numbers... of individuals joining the community...more people testing...more people helping...
well ...you get the domino effect from the result...
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2017-09-21
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#14
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I'm kind of lost with all the Fremantle revival and porting threads these days.
What exactly is the aim of this project?
All of these have been mentioned before and attempted with some results, so I'm not sure which one is it this time. And what's the current status?
Just out of curiosity.
What exactly is the aim of this project?
- Do you guys want to run Fremantle on other devices?
- Are you porting hildon-desktop to run on other OSes?
- Or are you guys upgrading the N900 to a newer kernel?
All of these have been mentioned before and attempted with some results, so I'm not sure which one is it this time. And what's the current status?
Just out of curiosity.
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2017-09-21
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#15
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Originally Posted by Venemo
I suppose it's a mix of first and second, since hildon-desktop and other Fremantle packages are ported to Devuan, which then can run on other devices. Check this post for status.
- Do you guys want to run Fremantle on other devices?
- Are you porting hildon-desktop to run on other OSes?
- Or are you guys upgrading the N900 to a newer kernel?
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2017-09-21
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Originally Posted by Venemo
The idea is to take as much as we can from fremantle. And then make that run on a modern 'base'. In this case: devuan/debian.
I'm kind of lost with all the Fremantle revival and porting threads these days.
What exactly is the aim of this project?
- Do you guys want to run Fremantle on other devices?
- Are you porting hildon-desktop to run on other OSes?
- Or are you guys upgrading the N900 to a newer kernel?
All of these have been mentioned before and attempted with some results, so I'm not sure which one is it this time. And what's the current status?
Just out of curiosity.
That means that you should be able to run this devuan/debian on your N900 and then install the stuff ported over from fremantle. That likely will also mean we can start using a mainline kernel.
But the N900 is not the only target device. Also arm tablet(s), the arm droid4 phone, and perhaps even intel tablets of some kind.
Makes sense?
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2017-09-22
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Originally Posted by Wizzup_
Yes, it makes perfect sense! Thank you!
Makes sense?
Do you guys also plan to switch to Wayland instead of X11?
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2017-09-22
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That will require reworking libHildon and hildon-desktop. At the moment xatom iirc is used to signal the window manager to correctly render menus. That's just for starters.
Window stacks need looking at, especially if going after stock GTK support
Window stacks need looking at, especially if going after stock GTK support
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2017-09-22
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Originally Posted by Android_808
Is libhildon even necessary? I thought a lot of what it does is now available in Gtk3.
That will require reworking libHildon and hildon-desktop. At the moment xatom iirc is used to signal the window manager to correctly render menus. That's just for starters.
Window stacks need looking at, especially if going after stock GTK support
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2017-09-22
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Depends on compatibility. If you want to be able to port existing apps with little amount of changes, you need a patched GTK3. If you want to stick to vanilla/stock GTK3, libhildon shrinks making it easier to maintain but existing apps need more porting or for compatibility you could add some wrappers or defines.
HildonStackedWindow is part of libHildon. AFAIK there is no equivalent class in GTK3. Closest I've found is GtkStack but as noted elsewhere it's not complete solution to the issue. Aside from some errors encountered popping items incorrectly setting top (pop twice, top is now 0 regardless of items unless now fixed) which I solved by keeping a separate list, the is the issue of the window manager close/back icon.
HildonStackedWindow is part of libHildon. AFAIK there is no equivalent class in GTK3. Closest I've found is GtkStack but as noted elsewhere it's not complete solution to the issue. Aside from some errors encountered popping items incorrectly setting top (pop twice, top is now 0 regardless of items unless now fixed) which I solved by keeping a separate list, the is the issue of the window manager close/back icon.
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