Originally Posted by Wikiwide

Out of curiousity: What would have been STEP2 like? Not like N900, because components are unobtainable (and not powerful enough to run modern websites) by now. Not like N950 because Fxtec is apparently taking up this niche.

I am still looking forward to resistive touch screen (like Pyra?), pocket-able form factor (neither Fxtec nor Pyra can be called small), stylus detector (if possible), RGB backlight for hardware keyboard (that has way too many user-cases and looks nice), sensors (pressure sensor to detect heartbeats? besides obvious altitude estimation and such) and hackerbus (detecting lightning from a long distance away?).

Thank you. Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

P.S. I have got Motorola A780, a cellular PDA running the Linux operating system, for my collection. No stylus though yet - previous owner lost it.

P.P.S. Would be nice to make sure Neo900 resources and schematics are not lost. Even if it will not be built...

Originally Posted by Kabouik

I hope you managed to deal with the burn-out. Except time, sweat and hope, which is not nothing, did you invest and lose more than what the down payments covered (I mean, capital)?

Originally Posted by Kabouik

Regarding the stall, are there any other funding opportunities? If PIA considered funding the project for some time, maybe others would, never know. What will happen to the sourced N900s if no alternate funding options exist, or if it is now deemed unreasonable to continue anyway?

Originally Posted by joerg_rw

....... With detachable qwerty kbd integrated into design process from beginning, so you had the choice between standard "phablet" style like 99% of phones, or the much wanted by us freaks palmtop PC, and you could switch between the two any time simly by attaching / removing the kbd

Originally Posted by joerg_rw

There is little thjat'S not already available since I always shared everything that's reasonably sharable without risk. What isn't public yet are the results from efforts of several layouters, which I'll move to the public git soonish

Thanks for pointing at this to remind me :-)
cheers
jOERG

Originally Posted by joerg_rw

I'll eventualy take an opportunity to tell a story about what was planned / were product goals of STEP2 aka Haengsung (internal codename). Basically the main goal was to be competitive to mainstream, and 10000% open. Alas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V wasn't able to offer a plausible embedded (open!!) SoC solution yet when we talked to them, so we did what seems to be the only option nowadays: i.MX8. With detachable qwerty kbd integrated into design process from beginning, so you had the choice between standard "phablet" style like 99% of phones, or the much wanted by us freaks palmtop PC, and you could switch between the two any time simly by attaching / removing the kbd

Originally Posted by joerg_rw

Dealing with health impact is still on the todo list. The economic impact on my own situation is that of earning a maybe 20% of my regular income for the last 5 some years, so no savings or pension plan. At least so far no huge liabilities to ruin my future life.

I'm recently not aware of any other funding opportunities. Though those come unexpected and all of a sudden whenever they came so far. You never know, right. What to do with the sourced N900 is a huge concern to me, no plans yet. Obviously they "belong to the supporters" who financed them, but it's not feasible economically and by workload to send them all out. I'll ponder what to do with them and will let you all know as soon as I find something reasonable and feasible.


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Originally Posted by chenliangchen

That is very interesting. Have been working with both Moto Keyboard Mod and Pro1, my personal feeling for the detachable keyboard, the biggest problem is the weight balance. Because the phone itself is (supposed) to be heavier and thicker. Unless you make the keyboard even more heavier and thicker (which combines the phone will make a real brick ), it is very hard to solve the balance and weight issue. Hence the Pro1 because the keyboard is together with PCB and battery etc and feels much better in hand.

But that's just my own thoughts, if you might have developed a clever way of having both, I would be most curious to learn...

Wish we could have a chance to meet, I can show you in more details the things we made/tried and the thoughts come across.

And a big thank you again for your contribution to the community. Ultimately it never fail if tried one's best.

Originally Posted by chenliangchen

That is very interesting. Have been working with both Moto Keyboard Mod and Pro1, my personal feeling for the detachable keyboard, the biggest problem is the weight balance. Because the phone itself is (supposed) to be heavier and thicker. Unless you make the keyboard even more heavier and thicker (which combines the phone will make a real brick ), it is very hard to solve the balance and weight issue. Hence the Pro1 because the keyboard is together with PCB and battery etc and feels much better in hand.

But that's just my own thoughts, if you might have developed a clever way of having both, I would be most curious to learn...

Wish we could have a chance to meet, I can show you in more details the things we made/tried and the thoughts come across.

And a big thank you again for your contribution to the community. Ultimately it never fail if tried one's best.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw

What to do with the sourced N900 is a huge concern to me, no plans yet. Obviously they "belong to the supporters" who financed them, but it's not feasible economically and by workload to send them all out. I'll ponder what to do with them and will let you all know as soon as I find something reasonable and feasible.