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#21
hmm...
all the fuss...
really it isn't worth it.
1.3.1 isn't a magical unicorn.
As has already been succinctly said...
smartest thing to do is
reflash - vanilla - emmc - 1.3 - CSSU (Which contains what 1.3.1 and much more ...as has been said...)
Forget about the OTA ideas you have (for now...)

It is a great that folks come to the NIT line with a fresh pair of eyes...
Seeing things that could be done or ideas of how to get something working or some new innovation previously not thought of or a brand new idea(s) ...
I strongly suggest keeping those ideas in sight ...write them down ...the why and how the idea came to the person...
And revisit them the very moment the new person has their sea-legs under them and has spent a great amount of time just coping with the basics first...(in this case I can't quite call you new Baptx...since you are an n9-er....but still...the NITs are day and night from other devices)

THEN ...revisit all the possible and potential ideas once more secure in the understanding of the NITs...and start your pet project from there.
It is just simply easier for the new person.


update:
If you have already reflashed and scrubbed the vanilla and emmc in the doing as was suggested....
then the next step is to install CSSU.
You will not have an up-to-date NIT until that happens (or as up to date as it gets ...that is...)
and will not be on par with what everyone else is using ...
you will be out of sync ...out of step ...with what updates to software there should be available for you.

In fact....
Once you have reflashed properly and set up the repos right...
You SHOULD see a pretty significant notification icon on the reg. screen ...which should include CSSU upgrading and installation...
(if memory serves)
If you don't ...something isn't right.

One of the most frequently and consistently updated progs for the NIT (at this time) is Kot's OSCP media player.
Installing that from the repos should show a an update...
If you have done everything to bring your device up to speed.

The ONLY reason to have an outdated n900 install ...is for the purpose pf research , study and such...
or if you have a real serious NIT-on for an older os (here I am referring to the n8x0's and the various firmwares available such as Bora, Mistral, Gregale, Scirocco, Herring, Chinook, and even normal Diablo)
It isn't the best idea for daily use ...nor for someone new to the NITs
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#22
Originally Posted by baptx View Post
[...] but I just would like to know if it is normal that I cannot see the OTA updates in the application manager when using the mirrors.
Yes.
Plus everything OTA 1.3.1 brought (compared to PR 1.3) also comes with CSSU (AFAIR).
 

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#23
correct......
In fact....may I say... ...
considering CSSU is required to be up to date with all current users, devels, software available, etc...
and considering that there is no difference whether or not 1.3 or 1.3.1 is installed...since upon installation of CSSU both variants are brought up to the EXACT same point afterwards.
There is zero point to the topic of taking the time and effort to hunt down and install 1.3.1
The entire topic distracts from the simple necessity of proper installation to optimum state.

1.3.1 isn't mythical unicorn firmware....
that is the province of the n8x0 firmwares...()

ok...
enough straight in-your-face tech talk out of me...
I'll get a brain tumour if I keep on this way.
you guys know its not healthy to keep up pointed neuron-firing for extended periods ...right?
We aren't designed that way...
gotta balance it out with a bit of random firing to really get the best out of it..
or you end up like this poor guy...



gonna have a beer, put on some classical, tune into the end of the stock market and watch the comparison of stock fluctuations to live international news, play some Vagrant Story ...and eat a pail of Rocky Road at the same time...

"Piece"
endsormeans out.
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
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#24
"Piece", endso?

To all those who may not know what rocky road is (I didn't, until about 5 years after I moved to Ingerland), it is a sickeningly sweet and greasy candy made from cocoa, sugar, butter, biscuits and marshmallows. Variations allow raisins, nuts etc. Eating a pail of it is a guaranteed upset stomach and a high risk of heart attack from clogged arteries.

All that just made me crave some. Damn you, endsormeans!
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#25
@endsormeans at the beginning I was using PR 1.1.1 and wanted to upgrade to PR 1.3 Now I was just curious to know why I cannot see an update. It is always interesting to know why something is not working even if there are workarounds.
My phone was not new so it made sense to flash the device but upgrading to PR 1.3 without flashing would be useful for someone who managed to buy a new N900 or someone who did not use his N900 for several years and does not want to mess restoring his device configuration and data.

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#26
yeah pichlo...
"piece"
since "peace" is never going to be achieved ....and rather everyone grabbing a "piece" ....seems to be the given...
"piece" ..it is.
Rocky Road ice cream



is only surpassed by "Moose Tracks" ice cream ...



which in turn is dwarfed by the delicacy of "Turtles" ice cream....



(I know it sounds horrible by the name ..people...but the ice creams have no animals in them at all...it is just crazy names for highly addictive meth-like ice creams...once tasted ....one must gorge on...it is impossible to stop.)

aha!
well Bap ...no wonder you couldn't see any updates!
1.1.1!
it would be like installing windows 98 and expecting to see updates available...
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.


PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#27
@endsormeans I thought the SSU mirror (http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mi...antle/ssu/mr0/) would show firmware updates notifications
So my guess is that another process was used by Nokia to check firmware updates, with hardcoded server names. If that is the case, the CSSU should remove this process (if not already done) to avoid unnecessary updates check to dead Nokia servers.

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#28
You are absolutely right!
Just wait a sec.
I am getting a hold of Maemo Support right now...they should be informed and deal with this ...
...won't be a moment...
[elevator music in the background playing Barry Manilow's "I write the Song" ]
more waiting...on hold...of course...
more waiting...
now starting to hum along to Barry Manilow...

Oh jeez...
[head-smack]
I completely forgot...
you ...me...and everyone else here.... IS the Maemo Support Team...
(of course I do not believe it fair that everyone knows how to do everything...there are perhaps a few folks who really get the CSSU ...and I mean ...REALLY get it...to be able to fiddle with it enough to alter CSSU significantly...of course you knew all this stuff anyway...)

I would suggest a far more invasive, dangerous, radical and time consuming ordeal....
Of going to Catalogs
then checking off and hence disabling Nokia Servers ...

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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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