Juiceme made for me these instructions to install ED + Netsurf 3.8.

https://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian/L..._Debian_Jessie

These just lack the instructions to change to the debian archives but if one just wants to use Netsurf it is better not to change to archives for there becomes easily many problems when installing there (like 20 times installed ED again after breaking it).

And for me I always have to "groupadd crontab" in chroot first when using the juicemes jessie2sulu img. because otherwise the installing stuff won't work.

But could this Juiceme instructions be modified to install netsurf 3.9? Is there some differences? And if you sulu have knowledge more of how to make the image work (or make an updated image to download with ED) that would be awesome! But appreciate all what you have done.

One question though: what is the benefit of changing from 3.8 to 3.9? I mean with 3.8 still many things wont work (videos, some sites not working properly) and if this is the case with 3.9 too I'm interested to know what is better then, why to change. EDIT: Just got an answer from the security certificate thread that 3.9 supports TLS 1.3 so maybe whatsappweb would work with that. Now just have to get 3.9 to work. If I remove openssl libcurl3 and Netsurf 3.8 and do the same with your stuff with libcurl4 and openssl as I've done with 3.8 according to juiceme's instructions should it work?

I really hope that I would have a well working browser. Things I would need for N900: working browser (gonna install again on ED chromium 57 from odroid to get whatsapp and instagram working cause netsurf 3.8 atleast could not do what I need, that is developer mode or agent to fool instagram to think I'm using mobile. I think Iceweasel maybe would do it if I only knew how to make it pretend to be a mobile cause otherwise you can't post images and I'm on amission in instagram. I follow only one person and use it a channel to post my thoughts to public), working youtube (haven't got cutetube2 to play videos even though it is said it is possible to make it happen), working navigation (which I think is possible but not yet found out how). N900 is though my main phone that I use and not wanna change that.

Thanks sulu for keeping alive N900 with ED and Netsurf and thanks for juiceme for great instructions for installing.

I always do the mistake that I try to install synaptic. That just breaks everything. At least if you start to use fix missing and -f install and aptitude and in panic go to do the same with backports. Just giving a warning and an advice Like someone would be that stupid to even try (I am).

Hahaha...
Oh Maemish my man...
Do you think you are the only soul here silly enough to install synaptic ? Or apt force install? Or apt fix missing?
Or anything of that ilk?
I know I've done it...
And repeatedly too..
So who is sillier?

Its a learning curve everyone goes through...
So don't be so hard on yourself.

Tried your transfer.sh links with microb, opera and netsurf. Files not found. Is it because browsers? Can someone confirm success downloading files?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

It's true that "user" under ED is not a member of a group "crontab", but neither is this the case under Maemo.
I don't know what's going on there for you.

Sure. Just use the packages of my 1st archive in his step 5.
That being said, I don't know why he's talking about dbus problems. dbus and dbus-x11 should be installed in the image according to [1].

I could probably do that some time in the future, but there's not much reason for doing that. Jessie is "old-oldstable" by now, so there's not a lot going on in it anymore.
As I said earlier, we're all riding a dead horse here.

Honestly, I have no idea. I try to avoid browsing the web from the N900 whenever I can (mostly I can).
I'm not building netsurf because I use it a lot. For me this is more like a sport than a necessity. I believe netsurf is the last remaining actually usefull browser for the N900 and updating it from time to time is sort of a hobby of mine - just like others collect stamps. I just rebased it on openssl 1.1 because I saw bradvesp's thread and I liked the challenge.

Netsurf isn't meant to be a feature-complete browser like Firefox or Chromium. So a lot of things will never work. Video is one of them. This minimalism is a reason why it's so fast (and therefore still usable on the N900).
The benefit of updating from 3.8 to 3.9 might be, that upstream fixed some security issues (I'm just guessing here), and in the context of my openssl change some more websites might work now than before.
But really, if you're concerend about security, you shouldn't touch the N900 with a 10m pole!

The links work for me in all three browsers.


[1] http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=3138

For me it really says File not found. I wil check with a laptop. I have noticed this same problem before. Maybe you have something updated I dona't have.

Just to make sure: When you said that dbus and x11 should be nstalled according to (1 do you mean that they should already be working in the img jessie2sulu or that they should be installed afterwards to it according to (1)? I mean that is it necessary to do all the stuff you have listed in your link after I have installed img to easy debbie, or is that just from the beginning of easy debbie and that many or all of those things are already included in later images? If not no wonder why I have had problems. And which img you suggest to install? Is it jessie2sulu or something else?

There's nothing to update in Maemo anymore.

That post I linked is a manual on how to create your own ED images from scratch.
So if you download one of my images you'll get exactly what is the end result of that manual (unless I screwed up, which has happened).
Since the jessie2sulu image is the latest one, of course that's the one I'd suggest you to download.

Ok. I have always installed that. But the dbus and X11 seems unconfigured or atleast it gives errors with them. Also there is this one thing with number 6 in the end which causes problems. You mentioned something about it in the instructions but can't now remeber what it was. Some applications require it but if I try to install there has became a lot of dependency problems, problems with dpkg and such. I try to document what it is and what happens with it. I remember juiceme warned me about it.

Libc6 it was I think. When I have tried to install some browser related apps (was it telegram) or some other I think it was this libc6 that was required. Should it be in the image and if so is there some problems if it is updated or something? I don't hope you to answer these questions beause this is possibly not enough information. I may try to give you more info later. Maybe I should try what I have tried before and make a mess of my ED and then info what I managed to do and how.

it's the other way around

@Maemish:
Please try to make your posts more concise! It's very hard to figure out what you're doing, what worked, what didn't work, and why whatever you did, didn't work.
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Not according to heise.de:
https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...s-4408980.html