But I can share a secret: finnish people have deep in their heart that they are the purest and noblest country and people in the world. They just do not say it aloud, many not even to themselves. It is not because they would be so humble or not sure of it really. It is just like a secret not yet to be revealed to the world. Like hidden from the evil. Maybe I should not have said it aloud. Hope I didn't spoil anything.

Wow....

Sorry man..
I beg to differ.

And here I thought it was just us Canadians who were quiet about it...

Canadians also secretly think that Finland is the best country in the world?

Oh yes indeed pichlo
And now that the secret is out...
wellllll...
as Maemish said...
I think something has spoiled here...

anyone consider the First Countup rather then the Final Countdown?

Hurt my back 5 work yesterday. Last night our last windows machine which have been on online use started have a hickup. Had Avast and freedome VPN. Took them away, installed Kaspersky, installed advanced systemcare and have been playing with that cleaning and updating drivers and defragmenting. Now used windows own tools to check and from mozilla files it found some bad clusters (the net have been a problem). Next gonna put down again all unneccessary services which I had enabled to get VPN working and gonna take off from internet the machine. Got yesterday from a work mate a T61 laptop and installed today Mint 19 64bit. Have only 3GB ram (if you have two spare 4Gb ddr2 rams you can throw them this direction cause it supports 8Gb) but it is enough for online use. Now installing Mint 19 32bit on my compaq 110 mini. Ubuntu Mate gave errors all the time and vanished the Drive letter from usb sticks so that windows wont recognize them. Have to find the solution to fix again (something like from the disk management in windows to rename/label the drive).

have you thought of a distro aimed at machines with older hardware and / or lower specs?

Lubuntu and lxle ...if you like familiarity with the popular distros..
Those two are good on older machines and machines that need to run leaner.
Decent compat as well.

My personal fav in the arena of ready to load distros is antix ...
It'll run on a bloody toaster from 1953 ...
it is a great distro ...
and perfect for older hardware...and limited specs compared to the expectations of today.

as far as a first countup...
Prob is ....where to start...
and once you pick some ...random number or thing to start from...
you will hit that "wall" of finality when you hit day zero.

A Countdown can always be left open ended ...and last a decade or more...
So the quantum mechanics of Dave's final countdown proved...

Also there is the conundrum of the countdown and countup conflicting
It could very well negate TMO
and possibly extend further and pop creation as we know it.

You and I must have very, very, very different ideas of what a countdown means.

To me, a countdown is to a specific event. Once that event is reached, that's it. The end. No more countdown.
A countup, on the other hand, is open-ended by definition.

what about the doomsday clock?
Eh?
there is a precedent for you.
it has been stalled, repealed, multiple times.
A countdown is one thing...and there is no definitive tick tock necessary...
a count up ...in my opinion ...has less wiggle room ..