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Not sure if lungs are better prepered to face covid just because one can be like nuclear sub. Or maybe it's exactly the correct way no divers has died because of covid?
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"The Finnish software manufacturer Jolla Oy, known for its smartphone operating system Sailfish OS, wants to get rid of its Russian shareholder Rostelekom. The company has been looking “for some time” for ways to reduce the shares of Russian owners, explained the chairman of the board of directors, Samuli Simojoki, on LinkedIn on Monday. But at the latest in view of the war in Ukraine, it is “clear that the company has no future without the complete replacement of Russian shares.”
I was thinking about that ..
https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/01/jolla-cut-ties-russia
Interesting, I didn't know they had been dialing down business/ties to Russia for a few years already.
I hope they get rid of those Rostelecom stakes.

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Smoking combined with Covid is not a good combo.
I don't smoke much, but I was very lucky to have stopped just a few days before it hit me, and haven't started again since.
Not saying I won't though...
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I was thinking about that ..
https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/01/jolla-cut-ties-russia
Interesting, I didn't know they had been dialing down business/ties to Russia for a few years already.
I hope they get rid of those Rostelecom stakes.


I don't smoke much, but I was very lucky to have stopped just a few days before it hit me, and haven't started again since.
Not saying I won't though...
I don’t see how they can find a buyer. Obviously jolla has been available a long time and don’t know how many users they have and if they even sell any devices or only support some of the old Sonys. And regarding the Russian investment it still not clear to me if anyone actually use this in Russia or if it’s actually just the government’s plan. Maybe Coderus could explain if it’s used or not because I haven’t seen any news about the last 5 years. I got almost all jolla fanboys after me when I thought it was a bad idea to let Putin bail out the company. But if Apple and Plenty of android’s will withdraw maybe jolla could get some small sail as long as they have hardware available.
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Maybe Coderus could explain if it’s used or not because I haven’t seen any news about the last 5 years. I got almost all jolla fanboys after me when I thought it was a bad idea to let Putin bail out the company. But if Apple and Plenty of android’s will withdraw maybe jolla could get some small sail as long as they have hardware available.
Kudos for your foresight - although even today I wouldn't say a Russian Telecom company - even if it's partially state-owned - "is Putin".
Apart from that all your questions are answered in the article. Asking them the way you do, I'm sure you didn't read it:

Originally Posted by Dave999
Obviously jolla has been available a long time and don’t know how many users they have and if they even sell any devices or only support some of the old Sonys. And regarding the Russian investment it still not clear to me if anyone actually use this in Russia or if it’s actually just the government’s plan.
Jolla knows how many registered users it has, and judging from OS downloads on their sirte they also have a good idea how many unregistered users there are.
Jolla never fully relied on the smartphone OS market, they have always had a second leg to stand on:

Originally Posted by Techcrunch
last summer Jolla announced it had finally hit profitability (in 2020). And, according to Pienimäki, it was growing significant revenue last year outside the Russian market.
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“We have actually ramped down business and exports to Russia already in 2021,” CEO and co-founder Sami Pienimäki told TechCrunch. “Thus, the potential tech sanctions would not impact Jolla’s business anymore. In parallel, Jolla is growing in particular rapidly in the automotive sector, and it formed already significant part of our 2021 revenues.”
And lastly:

Originally Posted by Dave999
I don’t see how they can find a buyer.
Originally Posted by Techcrunch
hinting that it’s hoping to find a buyer for the Rostelecom stake, potentially from the automotive sector, or perhaps by taking support from the Finnish government (if offered).
Yes, just hinting so far. I'm not worried that they'll find a way.

Anything more, I'd basically be quoting the whole article. Read it, it's not long.
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But think about it. The top management of Rostelecom are on the list of shitshow-don’t-touch-list. Of course they can find investors but my point. Fewer people will pay them now or do buisniess as long as they are on the list.

Secondly. Jolla have had plenty of years to find investors and in my mind it’s not easier now.

Putin?
Rostelecom board of directors answers indirectly to the president of the Russian federation. Putin since he has to approve of the board. That means he is the top dog even if he isn’t running the business. So who want and can do business at the moment? I wrote about that back in the days but the Russian pages are slow so I can’t find it now or if they removed from Rostelecoms pages. Probably someone trying dos attack…

I don’t see anything that is new in that article. On the flip side they turned profitable? But I have no clue how and until then I assuming it’s just investment money.
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Light to dark.

We have dark matter so do we also have dark light.
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We have dark matter so do we also have dark light.
The complement of matter is not light, Dave. It is energy. Dark energy exists.
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The complement of matter is not light, Dave. It is energy. Dark energy exists.
Possibly or we don't know what it is yet so we group it as energy. All thinhs are connected by the dark force.

Samsung rollable devices looks great. Something new atleast.
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