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to Maemo 7 / Leste by Maemish - 1 day, 20 hrs ago -
The N900 is now 15 years old! (9)
to Nokia N900 by Arno_11 - 6 days ago - more...
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2023-10-08
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#32
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Originally Posted by t-b
The official Firefox 5.0 for Maemo was fast and had good UI (example left/right swipes to tab/tool bars and automatic full screen) with Maemo 5 with N900. I just wonder how fast it would be with Leste with N900.
Nice to see these tests - thanks for sharing. A browser that works on the N900 (even if it is slow) would be nice.
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2023-10-08
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#33
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I'm trying to test old mobile Firefox (called Fennec). I have tried built several different versions, but it is using some black voodoo and it just can't be compiled with any newer compiler. And Leste doesn't have old compilers, so I'm now compiling older compiler and then I can try Fennec again.
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2023-10-24
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#34
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Jib is a new browser for Leste, built around QWebEngineView. Some features:
- Suitable for small screens
- Browser history
- Webpage zoom
- Enable/disable Javascript
- Tabs not supported
Currently still in alpha. Performance wise it is pretty good. Needs some quality of life features like bookmarks.
https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/jib
Can be installed via:
- Suitable for small screens
- Browser history
- Webpage zoom
- Enable/disable Javascript
- Tabs not supported
Currently still in alpha. Performance wise it is pretty good. Needs some quality of life features like bookmarks.
https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/jib
Can be installed via:
Code:
sudo apt install -y jib
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2023-12-15
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#35
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Has anybody tried compile Ungoogled Chromium:
https://github.com/ungoogled-softwar...ogled-chromium
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https://github.com/ungoogled-softwar...ogled-chromium
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2024-06-28
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#36
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Originally Posted by teroyk
I did not test that, but I tested Vivaldi 6.8 Arm64 version with Maemo Leste with Pinephone Keyboard and it works. First start hang, but next starts work.
Has somebody tested Vivaldi for Linux ARM with Leste:
https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-bro...-raspberry-pi/
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I installed this way (if somebody know better way, tell here):
- I downloaded Linux DEB ARM64, from pull down menu Vivaldi 6.8 from https://vivaldi.com/download/
- I type command: sudo dpkg -i 'vivaldi-stable_6.7.3329.41-1_arm64.deb'
- It says missing some something, so I fixed it with: sudo apt --fix-broken install
You can start it with touch icon.
There is also Linux DEB ARM and it might work with Droid4 or even run in N900 (but I don't say that it would be fast in N900).
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2024-08-26
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#37
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Some news relating Dooble-browser and other QtWebEngine-based browsers:
I decided to test the most simple QtWebEngine-browser which is: "qtwebengine/examples/webenginequick/minimal" (something like 20 lines of code and 10 lines of UI).
A)
Seems that QT5(-web) is now somehow broken on ARM-N900-leste. I'm pretty sure that I didn't see these errors last year when testing qtwebengine.
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these are coming from:
./qtwebengine-opensource-src-5.15.2+dfsg/src/3rdparty/chromium/gpu/command_buffer/service/context_group.cc
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-> Dooble is not rendering web pages any more (on N900). Simpler browsers work.
I suspect this upgrade is causing it:
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Compile minimal
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Runtime dependency:
Run
D)
As minimal doesn't even have address-bar, I compiled version with homepage=google.com https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...52dVZe4cyWZxPt [sha256sum:44ab3ef3dbf14ee668589df0315d4e34bf2d6762 4c509e03da5ff567c4e11570]
You can scroll with scrollbars, or with arrowkeys.
Even this is very slow.
E)
Little bit more browser would be "qtwebengine/examples/webenginequick/quicknanobrowser"
Compile
Run
Downloadable from https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...52dVZe4cyWZxPt [sha256sum:e995605496cf60b249ae5c4a195f810c2f14dc82 ef4fc33a4acfb5749d6dc693]
I decided to test the most simple QtWebEngine-browser which is: "qtwebengine/examples/webenginequick/minimal" (something like 20 lines of code and 10 lines of UI).
A)
Seems that QT5(-web) is now somehow broken on ARM-N900-leste. I'm pretty sure that I didn't see these errors last year when testing qtwebengine.
Code:
[19968:19985:0826/193124.172334:ERROR:context_group.cc(181)] ContextResult::kFatalFailure: ES3 is blacklisted/disabled/unsupported by driver. [19968:19985:0826/193124.271882:ERROR:gles2_cmd_decoder.cc(8580)] [.DisplayCompositor]GL ERROR :GL_INVALID_ENUM : glFramebufferTexture2D: <- error from previous GL command Falling back to using screens root_visual.
these are coming from:
./qtwebengine-opensource-src-5.15.2+dfsg/src/3rdparty/chromium/gpu/command_buffer/service/context_group.cc
Code:
// Fail early if ES3 is requested and driver does not support it.
if ((context_type == CONTEXT_TYPE_WEBGL2 ||
context_type == CONTEXT_TYPE_OPENGLES3) &&
!feature_info_->IsES3Capable()) {
LOG(ERROR) << "ContextResult::kFatalFailure: "
<< "ES3 is blacklisted/disabled/unsupported by driver.";
return gpu::ContextResult::kFatalFailure;
}
-> Dooble is not rendering web pages any more (on N900). Simpler browsers work.
I suspect this upgrade is causing it:
Code:
libqt5core5a_5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u5_armhf.deb 2022-08-13 21:57 libqt5core5a_5.15.2+dfsg-9+deb11u1_armhf.deb 2024-05-13 20:17
Compile minimal
Code:
cd ~ git clone https://code.qt.io/qt/qtwebengine.git cd qtwebengine git checkout 5.15.17 #This is the newest qt5. (2024-07-09) #You really need to make directory outside of the qt-source and same depth (see: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-76140) mkdir -p ~/own_qtwebengine/examples/webengine/minimal cd ~/own_qtwebengine/examples/webengine/minimal/ #you might want change starting page on ~/qtwebengine/examples/webengine/minimal/main.qml qmake -o Makefile ~/qtwebengine/examples/webengine/minimal/minimal.pro make
C)
Runtime dependency:
Code:
sudo apt-get install qml-module-qtwebengine
Code:
./minimal
D)
As minimal doesn't even have address-bar, I compiled version with homepage=google.com https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...52dVZe4cyWZxPt [sha256sum:44ab3ef3dbf14ee668589df0315d4e34bf2d6762 4c509e03da5ff567c4e11570]
You can scroll with scrollbars, or with arrowkeys.
Even this is very slow.
E)
Little bit more browser would be "qtwebengine/examples/webenginequick/quicknanobrowser"
Compile
Code:
cd ~ git clone https://code.qt.io/qt/qtwebengine.git cd qtwebengine git checkout 5.15.17 #This is the newest qt5. (2024-07-09) #You really need to make directory outside of the qt-source and same depth (see: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-76140) mkdir -p ~/own_qtwebengine/examples/webengine/quicknanobrowser/ cd ~/own_qtwebengine/examples/webengine/quicknanobrowser/ qmake -o Makefile ~/qtwebengine/examples/webengine/quicknanobrowser/quicknanobrowser.pro make
Code:
./quicknanobrowser https://html5test.co/
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2024-08-26
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#38
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From what i see, it seems Dooble now uses opengles3, no ?
If yes, N900 is limited to opengles2 anyway.
By the way, do you run N900 with Leste -devel upgrade ?
It is absolutely necessary at the moment with huge improvement in term of performances. It should be easier to test and compile browsers in my opinion.
(Note: i'm not a dev so if you need more technical details about compilation, you should ask on IRC #maemo-leste)
Last edited by Arno_11; 2024-08-26 at 20:11.
If yes, N900 is limited to opengles2 anyway.
By the way, do you run N900 with Leste -devel upgrade ?
It is absolutely necessary at the moment with huge improvement in term of performances. It should be easier to test and compile browsers in my opinion.
(Note: i'm not a dev so if you need more technical details about compilation, you should ask on IRC #maemo-leste)
Last edited by Arno_11; 2024-08-26 at 20:11.
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2024-08-27
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#39
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I'm grateful Aapo that you're back in business! I really hope there can be found agood browser foe Leste. Netsurf 3.11 may be now quite good and found Thorium browser today which could work too maybe. I'm in hope that there can be found a solution to use whatsappweb maybe even if it would be really slow. It doesn't really matter if it takes time to load the webpage and to get it to work. If you use that browser only for whatsappweb it can stay open and it is usable. I did this with ED and chromium 57 for odroid on Maemo 5.
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I've used https://surf.suckless.org/ on easydebian in the past when i was experimenting with that.
A minimal browser without a lot of dependencies but was at that time fastest of all (probably because of the very small size)