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#1
1. Downloaded image - 20230209 from https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/

2. ran

Code:
xzcat maemo-leste-VERSION.img.xz | sudo dd status=progress bs=1M of=/dev/sdb

3. Installed uboot on N900, N900 is on SSU Testing 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12

4. added Uboot entry : mmcblk1p1

5. Error during boot:
- (EE) libseat/backend/logind.c:137 could not take device: no such device.

- kernel command line: root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait console=tty2.115200


I tried googling, unable to find anything like this, related to leste.

Please, help.
 
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The daedalus images are at the moment very experimental.

First I would try some chimaera image. But there are not many testers to try images and these images gets automatically created and it could be that not all are working.
Most people upgrade there running systems with apt and not using new images.

The main development device which runs best is the droid 4.

I would try maybe this image 20240908-chimaera.

Or you could ask arno11 on irc. He knows probably which image is working good and he is also trying at the moment to get daedalus images to work.
 

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Originally Posted by Halftux View Post
The daedalus images are at the moment very experimental.

First I would try some chimaera image. But there are not many testers to try images and these images gets automatically created and it could be that not all are working.
Most people upgrade there running systems with apt and not using new images.

The main development device which runs best is the droid 4.

I would try maybe this image 20240908-chimaera.

Or you could ask arno11 on irc. He knows probably which image is working good and he is also trying at the moment to get daedalus images to work.

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Just to clarify (i know it is a bit confusing):

At the moment, almost all N900 images are broken OOTB for various reasons (updates issues, wrong meta packages, swap issues).

However it is just affecting fresh installations.

So at the moment, for you guys who wants to try leste without issues, i recommand you to burn last available daedalus image and modify fstab before the first boot (i.e from PC or from sdcard mounted in Fremantle):

In /etc/fstab:

#comment emmc swap:
#/dev/mmcblk1p3 none swap sw

#and add sdcard swap:
/swap none swap sw


That's it. The first boot is very slow as usual, so don't click anywhere for at least 3 min until the welcome message appears.
You need to extand rootfs and reboot
After second boot, it needs at least 2 min to load/swap some stuff even if you see Hildon-Desktop. Then things are quite fast but you can use 500Mhz as minimum freq, modify transitions a bit and use boost mode if needed (see wiki).

The only real issue we have at the moment with N900 and daedalus is Qt5 apps launch time.
There is actually a workaround so, just ask here on TMO or IRC.

(edit: ringtones break incoming calls ATM. As a workaround silent mode with or without vibrator fixes the issue)


Note: if the UI is very slow or laggy, the culprit is the SDcard for sure, as now, things are really smooth on N900 with a good SDcard

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Three questions:
1. Do you have any estimate when Leste for N900 would be like "out of the box" ready?

2. Will it always stay like this that user needs to do many mods first? Could the expand sdcard, swaps, transitions etc. to be included in the first boot parameter?

3. Is it possible to add to the image a loading/spinning icon (or the mem usage bar as was in loadapplet in Fremantle) so that you can see that there are processes going on? Then you don't have to guess when it is ready for use. That I found really helpfull on Fremantle with some apps you needed to wait to load which made N900 to "freeze" for a moment.
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1) It depends of few devs spare time but there are only few issues to fix now (OOTB ready). But remember guys, Daedalus is still experimental ATM.

2) No, of course. Again, just question of spare time to include them.

3) Yes, it should be useful on boot in my opinion.
However, it should be useless for apps: if the device is unresponsive using an app, that simply means the app is to heavy for N900 or SDcard is really too slow.

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I mean with some apps it takes time to load. And with some when you launch the app it throws you on hildon for some time before launching the app. It would be usefull to know something is happening.

Not sure if geeks like it differently, but what I would like the Leste to be on the first boot:
1. Loading bar appears.

2. Explaining texts shows above bar telling what is happening.

3. Then information of expanding the card and the need to restart Leste (which I understand is not possible to make to be automatic cause you need to choose to boot to boot menu and choose Leste, or could it be done?)

4. Then the loading bar would continue from where it got before expanding card space, with texts about tweaking performance etc.

5. The hildon desktop would show only after everything is done and device is responsive so that no-one needs see the desktop without being able to use it.
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The mem usage is usefull also while opening some websites which are heavy. This I noticed on Fremantle with Opera. You don't try to surf a site before the mem bar is down again.
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I understand that Maemish but keep in mind that Leste is not Fremantle and in 2025, browsing heavy websites is not possible anymore and we can't compare with how it was going on with Fremantle 10 years ago.
N900 is still a fantastic device, it is a miracle almost everything still works with very recent stuff. But you can't expect good web performances on the same device with websites X100 heavier in 2025.

Apart web browsing, you can expect no slowdown with Leste, really. (Of course if you use proper apps optimized and built for N900).

As well, keep in mind that most (if not all) slowdowns users have seen with Leste during the last couple of years were due to slow SDcards...

And about what you said at 5, yeah totally agree

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I don't expect pages to load fast (except with netsurf which I hope a lot for future) but the mem br helps waiting.
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