I know a lot of people think that Wayfinder is great and all, but why are the maps so old? I would buy this product, but I can't seem to get myself to dish out good money for something that doesn't even have my home or street! I could be wrong, but is the subscription maps different than the ones I downloaded from Wayfinder?

I live in Canada and it doesn't seem like it's a priority to update the geography here. To make matters worst, I've just bought a Nokia N82 cell phone and I must say, this thing is excellent. I never owned a Symbian phone before, but it seems to be able to do everything the N810 can do and more except for the 800x480 screen resolution. The Maps application on the N82 is far superior to Wayfinder. It uses Tele Atlas maps and I must say it is up to date (within a year). I thought someone mentioned that Wayfinder uses the same map source as well, but it does not seem to be the case.

Is there a way to use the Tele Atlas maps from the N82 on the N810?

Some inputs please?

Subscription maps are the ones that come with the device. I contacted Wayfinder to find out about the map updates and their support had no knowledge if and when updates would be available.

I think everybody interested in the navigation feature should contact Wayfinder and express their interest in the program and complain about the lack of map updates. Not much use complaining about it amongst ourselves.

The maps are still from 2006, when Navicore was first released for the Nokia 770. Wayfinder uses Teleatlas maps but apparently they're not interested in keeping the maps up to date.

I visited Sweden (Västra Götaland region) for a couple of days in late January and I decided to give the Wayfinder Maps application a test run using the 7 day test registration while driving around in a rental car (N800 + external SiRF III GPS Bluetooth receiver).

To be honest I'm less than thrilled after this test:

• Routing quality is mediocre at best: Driving a car I would prefer to get routed via streets which are broad enough and somehow paved, forest tracks suitable for walkers only are just not acceptable.
• At some crossroads the announced directions are just misleading (right vs. left).
• Wayfinder insists on "Please turn immediately" on 4 lane roads with separation or tries to navigate via unsuitable paths when driver deviates from initial navigation.
• Preannouncements and announcements in roundabouts are quite late.

I could live with somehow outdated maps, but it is not acceptable if I have to do navigation myself as Wayfinder insists on routes I can't take.

I wrote a detailed description of my findings / problems and passed this on to Wayfinder. It took several attempts to receive at least a feedback from them and they stated only, that they will have a look at it...

I think Wayfinder Maps could be a very useful application if it would be on par (regarding price, actuality, reliability) with standalone navigation systems available. Currently one can get standalone navigation systems (hardware, current maps, decent application) for significantly less than what Wayfinder asks just for the application with above mentioned shortcomings.

Best regards, Arnd

What standalone navigation system can you buy for less than Wayfinder? I have one of the cheapest Garmins but it doesn't do routing or carry maps and still costs more than WF.
Incidentally, I don't know what mapping system TomTom uses but it regularly directs me up tracks and over rivers where no bridge exists!

AFAIK Wayfinder charges 99 EUR for a 36 month licence and I would have to provide the hardware (N810 / N800+GPS mouse+car mount). There are currently several complete navigation systems readily available for 90 to 95 EUR (mostly using Navteq maps and Navigon software) and even the Garmin Nüvi 200 is available for 110 EUR.

If Wayfinder would provide decent maps and be on par with these entry level navigation systems, I would consider 50 EUR appropriate. In its current state I don't know whether I would buy it at all.

I also think, that an Internet Tablet is used differently for navigation purposes compared to standalone navigation systems: I would use my N800 when using a rental car or visiting places abroad because my N800 is always with me. A standalone navigation system is usually used more or less permanently mounted in ones private car, where I wouldn't use my N800.

Arnd

The cheapest standalone GPS I can find in London is the Nuvi you mention. This is €120 at present exchange rates, so isn't cheaper than Wayfinder in the UK. I agree that I have already bought the IT but the GPS is just a convenient addition. I wouldn't have bought a standalone GPS.

I use my N810 in my vehicle, rented or not. Certainly in the UK, you'd be a mug to leave a GPS in a car!

The Nuvi in the UK only has UK mapping. Wayfinder covers Europe and the world within the price. That will be expensive to do on the Nuvi.

Mapwise, Wayfinder is as good, if no better than others (2) I've tried in the UK.

I'm not an advocate of Wayfinder, I just find it does what I need with no problems and is not particularly expensive for what it offers.

I've got to agree that the WF maps are pathetically out of date - my three year (four maybe) old copy of TomTom mobile has more up to date maps than WF does -- though to be fair, WF doesn't try and send me round the wrong way around a roundabout (traffic circle! yeuch!) near my house.

Has anyone driven down the A1, one of the major routes up & down the country. It was changed and completed about 6 years ago, yet WF still tells me I'm driving over fields!

I agree with Lemmy, here in the UK I've found the maps to be pretty up to date. Certainly more up to date than the old tomtom 5 maps I also have, and which themselves are more than adequate. SatNav combined with (gasp) an old-fashioned paper map will get you most places

I just wrote the german support asking how you can tell when updated maps are available and how old the existing european maps are...